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Post by Jun » 2020-06-17 8:04

唐唐的郁金香同学推荐 Ursula K. Le Guin 的 The Left Hand of Darkness,让我想开个帖子,欢迎科幻和奇幻类小说爱好者添加。

Ursula K. Le Guin

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喜欢道家哲学,还自己翻译过道德经。代表作:
The Left Hand of Darkness, The Dispossessed, Earthsea series(有魔法的故事), The Lathe of Heaven。

Leigh Brackett

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汗颜说家属塞给我一本她的短篇小说集但是我没有读。The Empire Strikes Back 的剧本是她写的。

James Tiptree/Alice Sheldon

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这位我已经长篇大论地介绍过了,不再赘述。

Margaret Atwood

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加拿大的骄傲,最著名的 Handmaid's Tale 我是N年前看的,基本上忘光了。现在打算去找她的书来看看,喜欢的会上来推荐。

Connie Willis

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她获得过的雨果奖,星云奖,等等业内大奖不计其数,拿到手软。最著名的小说系列是历史穿越小说,回到过去的都成为小人物,绝不是将相王侯或后宫妃嫔,只能见证却不能改变历史。包括 Doomsday Book, To Say Nothing of the Dog, Blackout/All Clear. 都以英国历史为背景。可惜太长了,我还没去看,只看过她的短篇小说,文笔细腻温柔,真能把人立刻看哭了。

Lois McMaster Bujold

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她的最著名的系列小说是 The Vorkosigan Saga,纯~ Space Opera 战争系列,非常硬汉,很复杂。我看过前两部,因为对战争不太有兴趣就搁下了。也是多次获得最重磅的雨果 novel 奖。
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Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2020-06-17 9:01

我看过Ursula K. Le Guin的三本科幻,都是Hainish Cycle。
The Left Hand of Darkness:跨性别科幻经典
The Dispossessed:一个不完美但持续运行着的无政府主义的乌托邦是什么样子?
The Word for World is Forest:和平一族碰上霸凌一族会怎么样?这本书我上个月刚读完。里面的殖民者的独白听上去很像当今美国极右保守派,靠欺负女人和暴力打击其他族人以显示其男性气质,让人恨得牙痒痒。我特别喜欢书的全是树的星球。


科幻女作家里我还喜欢Joan Slonczewski
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正职是微生物学家,所以她的小说里充满各种奇妙的生物。代表作A Door Into Ocean、Brain Plague和The Children Star。Ecology是一大主题,反对human-centric。

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她的科幻有The Sparrow系列,但她不单写科幻。我看过第一本The Sparrow--梵蒂冈派耶稣会的教士去外星传教。比较惊奇的是她对外星人社会心理的描述。
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2020-06-18 1:45

这个单子我要追。
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Post by Jun » 2020-06-18 8:09

Ecology是一大主题,反对human-centric。
这个听上去非常是我的菜,想看。

家属小推过 Nancy Kress,主打以 string theory 为题材的小说,我没看,听上去太玄了,有点 intimdated。

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他还塞给我两本 N.K. Jemisin 的获雨果奖小说,叫我先看看如何,我还没来得及看。这人近几年非常有名。

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There was nothing to warn anyone about. The world went on, even as it fell apart, changed irrevocably, became something strange and different. --- "Acceptance" in The Southern Reach Trilogy by Jeff VanderMeer

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Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2020-06-23 17:12

N.K. Jemisin 我也有兴趣。有一年雨果奖她打败了刘慈欣,国男粉丝如丧考妣,骂得那叫一个难听。
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Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2020-06-23 17:21

最近几年我看了不少探讨另类性别和性别角色的科幻小说,碰巧都是女作家的作品。

Ursula K. Le Guin之The Left Hand of Darkness是这个话题的经典。冬星人平时都是无性别差异的中性人。每月2-3天的发情期(kimmer),随机变男变女,随机享受当男人或者当女人的乐趣。两个冬星人可以自由组合成长期伴侣,但不是必须的。长期伴侣加随机变男变女,意味着男女,男男,女女组合 。在一生中可当爹也可当妈,这样在养育后代方面也没有性别差异了。但是,冬星不是乌托邦,没有性别差异,但有阶级、贫富的差异。监狱里的犯人被迫服药停止发情。

如果只想看性别设定,可以只读第七章外星(类似地球)观察者写的报告。我摘抄了几段:
What is very hard for us to understand is that, four-fifths of the time, these people are not sexually motivated at all. Room is made for sex, plenty of room; but a room, as it were, apart. The society of Gethen, in its daily functioning and in its continuity, is without sex.

Consider: Anyone can turn his hand to anything. This sounds very simple, but its psychological effects are incalculable. The fact that everyone between seventeen and thirty-five or so is liable to be (as Nim put it) “tied down to childbearing,” implies that no one is quite so thoroughly “tied down” here as women, elsewhere, are likely to be—psychologically or physically. Burden and privilege are shared out pretty equally; everybody has the same risk to run or choice to make. Therefore nobody here is quite so free as a free male anywhere else.

Consider: A child has no psycho-sexual relationship to his mother and father. There is no myth of Oedipus on Winter.

Consider: There is no unconsenting sex, no rape. As with most mammals other than man, coitus can be performed only by mutual invitation and consent; otherwise it is not possible. Seduction certainly is possible, but it must have to be awfully well timed.

Consider: There is no division of humanity into strong and weak halves, protective/protected, dominant/submissive, owner/chattel, active/passive. In fact the whole tendency of dualism that pervades human thinking may be found to be lessened, or changed, on Winter.
几乎每本Joan Slonczewski的书都会涉及到性别话题。A Door Into Ocean中的Shora是一个全部被海洋覆盖的星球,居民全是女性。女性之间可结为伴侣,可生孩子,但作者没有解释遗传多样性的问题如何解决。The Brain Plague里,人类科技已经解决了彻底性转的问题,每个公民都有基本医疗保险,一生可报销一次性转,有钱人随便转来转去!

当然,一本好的科幻小说往往不是单一主题,上面这些书中性别角色的探讨只是一部分。

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主要写fantasy和历史小说,只有一本科幻名叫Ammonite。一艘载满地球移民的飞船在Jeep星球降落。Jeep和地球的环境很类似,但是,星球上一种致命病毒杀死了所有男性,大部分女性生存下来。幸存者可克隆自己,也可和同性伴侣结合,在病毒(对,就是同一个致命病毒)的帮助下解决遗传多样性的问题。

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主打性别话题的科幻有几年前大热的The Power,2017年Baileys Women’s Prize for Fiction获奖作品。作者Naomi Alderman是Margaret Atwood的学生。此书是墨黑墨黑的反乌托邦末日小说。二战同盟国的一次实验导致了人类基因突变,女性因此具有了超能力,从青春期开始可放电伤人,从此男女权力结构开始改变。书的头几章读起来像是复仇小说,哪里的女性受压迫最厉害哪里反抗最大,比如中东、俄罗斯(咦,没有中国?)。然而,世界并没有变得更平等 -- 权力导致腐败。最悲伤的是,末日之后5000年,新世界和旧世界并没有本质区别,性别歧视依然存在,只是歧视和被歧视的双方调个了,人类个体总也脱不了生理上的由性别决定的限制。Naomi Alderman和其她作者(比如Joan Slonczewsk)不同的是,她不认为女性占主导的世界会更平等友善。
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唐唐的郁金香 wrote:
2020-06-23 17:21
最近几年我看了不少探讨另类性别和性别角色的科幻小说,碰巧都是女作家的作品。

Ursula K. Le Guin之The Left Hand of Darkness是这个话题的经典。冬星人平时都是无性别差异的中性人。每月2-3天的发情期(kimmer),随机变男变女,随机享受当男人或者当女人的乐趣。两个冬星人可以自由组合成长期伴侣,但不是必须的。长期伴侣加随机变男变女,意味着男女,男男,女女组合 。在一生中可当爹也可当妈,这样在养育后代方面也没有性别差异了。但是,冬星不是乌托邦,没有性别差异,但有阶级、贫富的差异。监狱里的犯人被迫服药停止发情。
雌雄同体的设定,我记得后来被一篇中篇小说 Enemy Mine (Barry Longyear) 抄去用了,以至于先看过 Enemy Mine 的我读到黑暗的左手时还觉得忒眼熟。我听她的访谈里提到对于道家的阴阳共存的理论非常喜欢,认为(西方文化里) masculinity 和 femininity 的对立是假象,而二者共存才是真实的。

Le Guin 自己做过很长时间的家庭妇女,养儿育女,对家庭妇女的 social role 进行 anthropological 研究。她的小说还对共产主义社会形式很有兴趣,说实话 The Dispossessed 看得我好累,因为我对共产主义社会真的没啥兴趣。还有就是她很喜欢写北极,极其寒冷的环境。

主要写fantasy和历史小说,只有一本科幻名叫Ammonite。一艘载满地球移民的飞船在Jeep星球降落。Jeep和地球的环境很类似,但是,星球上一种致命病毒杀死了所有男性,大部分女性生存下来。幸存者可克隆自己,也可和同性伴侣结合,在病毒(对,就是同一个致命病毒)的帮助下解决遗传多样性的问题。
Yeah, I think we've all had that idea at some point ...

说到性别的社会性,我又来推荐 James Tiptree 的 The Screwfly Solution 和 Your Haploid Heart 了,可以在此处下载到:

https://epdf.pub/your-haploid-heartb270 ... 35997.html

一个很有名的例子,我没好意思提起,是 Doris Lessing。她的小说实际上也可以归入科幻类型,但也被看作是严肃文学。Anyway, who cares. 我没读过。

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目前开始读 The Fifth Season (Jemisin),这个应该是属于 fantasy 类型的。

OMG, it's good. 哗哗哗地看到8%,看得心脏怦怦乱跳,不知道晚上还能不能睡得着觉。It's kind of unputdownable. :dog001: It's ferocious.
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Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2020-06-26 13:44

在上面加了一位Naomi Alderman。
Jun wrote:
2020-06-23 18:50
我听她的访谈里提到对于道家的阴阳共存的理论非常喜欢,认为(西方文化里) masculinity 和 femininity 的对立是假象,而二者共存才是真实的。

Le Guin 自己做过很长时间的家庭妇女,养儿育女,对家庭妇女的 social role 进行 anthropological 研究。
有意思,我去找来看看。
她的小说还对共产主义社会形式很有兴趣,说实话 The Dispossessed 看得我好累,因为我对共产主义社会真的没啥兴趣。还有就是她很喜欢写北极,极其寒冷的环境。
我还挺喜欢The Dispossessed。UKL挺聪明,写出来一个不完美的乌托邦让我觉得挺信服,不过她对人性之黑暗并没有很深入的探讨。其中语言改变潜在认知的设定很有趣,比如没有“work”一词(work = play)。再比如没有所有格,不分你的还是我的,但把my mother变成the mother没有说服我,可能我自己也当妈,父母子女的的生物联系太强烈了。

说到性别的社会性,我又来推荐 James Tiptree 的 The Screwfly Solution 和 Your Haploid Heart 了,可以在此处下载到:

https://epdf.pub/your-haploid-heartb270 ... 35997.html
谢谢。等我看完上来说。
一个很有名的例子,我没好意思提起,是 Doris Lessing。她的小说实际上也可以归入科幻类型,但也被看作是严肃文学。Anyway, who cares. 我没读过。
莱辛的哪篇是科幻?说来听听?
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Post by Jun » 2020-06-26 14:12

我没看过 Lessing 的小说,看简介好像很多部都是科幻。Canopy's in Argos 系列
好像是最著名的。
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这星期我连日本武侠片也不看了,天天晚上抱着 The Fifth Season 啃,现在接近尾声了啊啊啊啊~~~~ 太 intense 了。 :worthy:
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Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2020-06-27 8:26

Doris Lessing 真的写过科幻!我对她的印象只来自于The Grass Is Singing,写的是南非种族冲突。Canopus in Argos 听上去结构有点像UKL的Hainish Cycle,每本书探讨一个星球,有联系但没有严格的先后次序。
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