聊天:如何发扬意大利精神

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Re: 聊天:如何发扬意大利精神

Post by Jun » 2020-07-29 6:02

对于“渣男”这个词不支持的人上来插一句:贝多芬不是著名的音乐界大渣男么? :laughting015:
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Re: 聊天:如何发扬意大利精神

Post by CAVA » 2020-07-29 6:34

要看渣男的定义是啥。根据目前听过看过的节目,他一生追求社会阶层高于自己的女性,从来没成功过。曾经被他追求过的一名女性还认为他既丑陋又有点疯狂。有人说他对朋友只有利用,但有人说他朋友还挺多,听力丧失后,来访者写下的对话有满满几大册。大家比较一致的是他对弟媳的鄙夷和攻击很过分,要从她手里夺取侄儿的监护权,继承贝多芬家的音乐事业。Ludwig的父亲对他严厉管控,Ludwig又转而对侄子采用同一套手段。Being Beethoven里的心理分析学家认为这太典型了。她也认为贝多芬自我评估过高,这种自信支持他度过心理难关写出辉煌作品,但会给一个社会人会带来重重困境。

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Re: 聊天:如何发扬意大利精神

Post by Jun » 2020-07-29 7:15

啊可能是我记错了,好像是说他喜欢勾引女学生啥的。去搜了一下,想起曾经拍过一部电影,Isabella Rossilini 和 Gary Oldman 主演的,关于贝多芬的恋爱关系,我没看过但据说拍得不错。

贝多芬的爸据说挺 abusive,不过莫扎特的爸也挺 abusive,所以 ... 郎朗的爸也很 abusive 是有道理的? :confused007:
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Re: 聊天:如何发扬意大利精神

Post by Jun » 2020-08-04 6:41

Google 推了一篇文章给我(大概因为我搜索过一些菜谱),看了就笑了:

2020 Is A Lot, But Japanese Food Dramas Are Helping Me Deal

推荐的就是深夜食堂和孤独的美食家。
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Re: 聊天:如何发扬意大利精神

Post by CAVA » 2020-08-04 9:39

五郎叔叔是吃播的鼻祖耶。要演好其实不容易,文章里也提到的《和歌子酒》,女主角努力演得好尴尬。

今天我的小开心是英国邮局即将发行的Sherlock电视剧十年纪念邮票。居然十年了!也有经典原作的邮票,但Adventure of the Second Stain是啥内容想不起来了。

https://shop.royalmail.com/special-stam ... s/sherlock

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First Class The Adventure of the Speckled Band
First Class The Red-Headed League
£1.68 The Adventure of the Second Stain
£1.68 The Adventure of the Dancing Man

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Re: 聊天:如何发扬意大利精神

Post by Jun » 2020-08-04 10:18

Second Stain 是讲俄国无政府主义革命的逃亡者 ... 不对,那个是金丝夹鼻眼镜的故事。天啊我也不记得了,早发性老年痴呆!只记得是因为女主角假装昏倒把地毯挪了位置,但是案件本身都没有印象了。

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adven ... cond_Stain
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Re: 聊天:如何发扬意大利精神

Post by CAVA » 2020-08-05 5:40

跟其它三篇相比,Second Stain太不出名了。

刚跟米兰同事开了个短会,他说意大利北部现在感染率很低,同时又在积极准备应对冬季可能的第二波。他们家从五月开始已经去了好几次餐馆,坐在室外。8月是意大利人度假高峰,他们会去Ancona,海滩不错,食物物美价廉。我一边拿小本本记下,一边哀怨不知何时才能再去意大利。

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Re: 聊天:如何发扬意大利精神

Post by Jun » 2020-08-05 6:52

现在我满脑子都是 Basilicata 地区的影子。Tatarani 那个剧还特意拉出 Matera 外景,经常跑到附近小镇啥的拍场戏,让人口水直流。有一段戏,女检察官在镇上咖啡馆跟老头们旁敲侧击地聊天,问一个打牌的百岁老头话,旁边店主说,他口音很重的,你不一定听得懂。Taratani 冷笑回答:I'm from Matera, not Milan. 把我笑死。 :bowling:
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