康为以及其他白宫八卦(3/22/2017更新)

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Post by april » 2017-02-19 3:55

Dark Money 看完了。
感觉就是现实版的Death Star 蓝图,Jane Mayer就是现实里的Rogue One!
亚马逊上有个读者说,“In terms of greed and evil, the billionaires detailed in this book make Trump look like a passing fart in the wind.” 我简直同意的不能再同意了。看完这书,真的觉得Trump是个耿直boy啊!虽然最后结果大概也没差。但是川普还是比GOP那帮孙子要诚实多了。

看之前生活在川皇世界里老是焦虑他们到底要干啥?看这书最大收获是知道他们到底要得是啥了。
-Destroy EPA so they could pollute at will, maximize profit.
-Discredit science, especially climate change science
-Destroy financial regulation so wall street can profit at maximum speed
-Reduce or zero taxes to the rich
-Destroy all social safety net to save money and ensure tax cut can happen
-Privatize education
-Privatize all entitlement programs (social security, medicaid, medicare)
-Only allow sponsored media(Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Fox等等)destroy free press

这不就是今日的天朝吗?!
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Post by Jun » 2017-02-19 10:01

大亨们表示:中国人民不是过得好好的?学中国有啥不好?实际上欧洲王室从十七世纪起就特羡慕中国的皇朝,多稳定啊,多集权啊,多高效啊,多省心啊。

二月中我们这儿就热到七十多度了,在东岸住了十八年还没见过这样的奇观。
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Post by april » 2017-02-19 11:28

Jun wrote:大亨们表示:中国人民不是过得好好的?学中国有啥不好?实际上欧洲王室从十七世纪起就特羡慕中国的皇朝,多稳定啊,多集权啊,多高效啊,多省心啊。
可是 Koch 他们不是一直标榜自己是从反commies 起家的嘛?他们怎么自圆其说? 我等着看他们什么时候意识到跟这个 Electoral system 折腾,对付各种民意的不确定因素太费事了,直接自己当皇帝比较省事。。。也许bannon 总统已经意识到了?
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Post by Jun » 2017-02-20 9:13

中国的政治是共产主义 ... 吗 ...?

Never let ideology get in the way of getting what you want. 理念和原则是修理和控制别人的工具而不是目的。这就是脑筋活络的成功者与脑筋僵化的知识分子之间的差别。知识分子宣传的是他们自己真诚的信仰,成功者宣传的是喂给下人替自己服务的信仰。所以知识分子永远只能给统治阶级当工具,然而他们还老觉得自己很聪明啊很聪明。知识分子特看重信仰,所以才需要“自圆其说”,前后一致。川皇给我们清清楚楚地证明了,自圆其说值几个钱?只要大权在握,管他奶奶的自圆其说,道理逻辑,权力就是硬道理。人民自己会自圆其说拜倒在权力脚下,如果需要理论基础,雇几个御用文人好了。我觉得中国人应该很熟悉这个套路了吧?


美国人民不需要中国人民习惯的主义与理论,自我奋斗发财致富就是道德最高点,最有钱就等于最好,不用跟他们玩儿什么理想。不知道有人听说过没一本叫做 "The Secret" 的畅销书,如此愚蠢低劣的发财术都会红遍美国,可见这个文化的利令智昏到了什么程度。
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Post by tiffany » 2017-02-20 14:07

昨天在 quora 上看到一问一答,问说:我就是不信进化论(大意)。有个康奈尔的 PhD 答道,我是觉得进化论不可信,要不然怎么可能这么一个科学先进的国家居然有那么多人认真的问这种问题。下面有人补刀说:我是个教徒,但是也信进化论,因为我不是个弱智。

美国人民的平均知识常识水平堪忧啊。
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Post by 豪情 » 2017-02-20 14:22

我很烦谁说信不信进化论. 还搞的跟宗教似的了,信不信由你。 信不信都在发生, 每天我们都在使用以这些理论为基础的现代科学技术。梵蒂冈反日心说自找苦吃。
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Post by Jun » 2017-02-20 15:50

豪情 wrote:我很烦谁说信不信进化论. 还搞的跟宗教似的了,信不信由你。 信不信都在发生, 每天我们都在使用以这些理论为基础的现代科学技术。梵蒂冈反日心说自找苦吃。
对啊,我也是。人民不信,难道细菌和病毒就停止变异进化了?就不感染不信进化论的人?
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Post by tiffany » 2017-02-20 22:24

知识常识啊,太重要了
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Re: 八一八康为这个女人(加了一段Mercer)

Post by staryngt » 2017-02-20 22:33

tiffany wrote:美国人民的平均知识常识水平堪忧啊。
现在anti-vaccine也声势大了起来:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... 48e77c6144
知识水平不够,就容易被煽动。
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Post by tiffany » 2017-02-20 22:52

好吧,我恶毒的说,活该她们得个麻疹天花五六的。小儿麻痹成年人也能感染。
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Re: 八一八康为这个女人(加了一段Mercer)

Post by Knowing » 2017-02-21 5:42

自然选择。。。。 :mrgreen:
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Re: 八一八康为这个女人(加了一段Mercer)

Post by april » 2017-02-23 13:56

“文艺复兴”(话说这名字还能起得更讽刺一点吗?!)内部打起来了。跟mercer对着干的家伙听上去好天真啊!怎么可能打得过呢?
ONE OF THE WORLD’S MOST SUCCESSFUL HEDGE FUNDS IS FACING AN EMPLOYEE REBELLION OVER DONALD TRUMP
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Post by Knowing » 2017-02-23 14:22

他也不是普通员工,是个合伙人,显然也蛮有钱的。爱干不干,被fire 了正好摆脱合同上的三年non compete 不知多少基金要跪求他加盟。
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Re: 康为以及其他白宫八卦(3/6/2017更新)

Post by april » 2017-03-17 11:25

今天居然一口气出了三篇关于Mercer的长文,分别来自纽约客,华盛顿邮报,和huffingtonpost. 毫无悬疑的简明读后感是纽约客那篇最震撼,huffingtonpost那篇最八。。。

1. Jane Mayer's new profile on Mercer!
HE RECLUSIVE HEDGE-FUND TYCOON BEHIND THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - How Robert Mercer exploited America’s populist insurgency.
Magerman shared his concerns with Mercer, and the conversation escalated into an argument. Magerman told colleagues about it, and, according to an account in the Wall Street Journal, Mercer called Magerman and said, “I hear you’re going around saying I’m a white supremacist. That’s ridiculous.” Magerman insisted to Mercer that he hadn’t used those words, but added, “If what you’re doing is harming the country, then you have to stop.” After the Journal story appeared, Magerman, who has worked at Renaissance for twenty years, was suspended for thirty days. Undaunted, he published an op-ed in the Philadelphia Inquirer, accusing Mercer of “effectively buying shares in the candidate.” He warned, “Robert Mercer now owns a sizeable share of the United States Presidency.”

Mercer, speaking of the atomic bombs that the U.S. dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, argued that, outside of the immediate blast zones, the radiation actually made Japanese citizens healthier. The National Academy of Sciences has found no evidence to support this notion. Nevertheless, according to the onetime employee, Mercer, who is a proponent of nuclear power, “was very excited about the idea, and felt that it meant nuclear accidents weren’t such a big deal.”

Magerman told me, “Bob believes that human beings have no inherent value other than how much money they make. A cat has value, he’s said, because it provides pleasure to humans. But if someone is on welfare they have negative value. If he earns a thousand times more than a schoolteacher, then he’s a thousand times more valuable.” Magerman added, “He thinks society is upside down—that government helps the weak people get strong, and makes the strong people weak by taking their money away, through taxes.” He said that this mind-set was typical of “instant billionaires” in finance, who “have no stake in society,” unlike the industrialists of the past, who “built real things.”
2. 华盛顿邮报
The Mercers and Stephen Bannon: How a populist power base was funded and built - The wealthy GOP donors and Trump’s chief strategist collaborated on at least five ventures.

3. huffingtonpost The blow-it-all-up billionaires
这篇讲了很多Cambridge Analytica 和各种RNC自己的data operation的矛盾,基本上大家都认为CA啥都没干,但是靠着Bekah的钱和支持,川普当选后拼命抢功,得罪了一大群人。有一条八卦有趣。
Bannon is said to be exhausted and stretched. He is largely responsible for the relentless pace of initiatives and executive orders in the early weeks of the administration, because he doesn’t expect to be in the White House forever. “I’m expecting to be fired by the summer,” he has told friends, likening himself to Thomas Cromwell, Henry VIII’s chief minister, who was instrumental in enforcing Britain’s Reformation but ended up being beheaded by his boss. A source close to Bannon says that he may have “joked about being fired,”
为什么Bannon会认为自己呆不长?是因为预见到川皇女婿容不下他吗?
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Post by Jun » 2017-03-18 9:51

谢谢 april。我去扫了一眼纽约客的长篇报道,只看了一半,有种熟悉的感觉。Robert Mercer 就是小K经常提起的那种电脑纳德,在花儿街靠编程发大财,没有 social skills。Peter Thiel 也是此类。我早听说在硅谷有很大一股势力,私下里是非常 libertarian 的立场,反对一切政府监管。这跟电脑网络行业性质有关,就是新兴工业的 wild west 状态,我们比较直观的例子是 Air BnB 和 Uber 在劳动法方面打擦边球,靠了廉价剥削和无保障发财,因为披上了新科技的外衣而钻监管法规的空子。不那么直观的是各种用电脑科技打擦边球在法律空白处大发其财的做法。这就跟十九世纪的拓荒运动一样,大老板利用各种手段挖金矿银矿发大财,群众急着哄抢分一杯羹,没人管什么安全设施啦,工人福利啦,基础建设啦,监督管理啦。那时候的政治也都是抓在大老板手里,政治家们是他们安插的工具。

美国现代的 libertarian 运动和思潮并不是因电脑科技发展而出现的,实际上一直都有,至少在七十年代之后形成一股明显的潮流。国会议员 Ron Paul 和 Rand Paul 父子俩是比较著名的代表人物,Ron Paul 每次都竞选总统,但是在共和党里不受到主流支持。实际上 libertarian 运动与传统的共和党议题有很大分歧,尤其是上一代的 neoconservative 运动,之间是一种又互相利用又彼此帝师的奇怪态度。问题是 libertarian 本身的一大特点是我行我素随心所欲,这个特点不太适合搞政治搞阴谋,所以在政治游戏里一直不太成功,但这并不等于他们的思潮在群众里面影响不大。

搞 libertarian 的人大多是白人,一个说不出口的思路是美国在十九世纪和二十世纪初非常强大(not necessarily true but that's the concept),那是一个巨人在大地上走动的时代,穷小子随时可以发大财变成 Carnegie 或 Vanderbilt 之类的强人超人干出一番大业,好向往。注意到这个饭特西有很强烈的男性神话的特点。为什么现在的美国不是1850年的状态呢?Libertarians 将之归罪于政府,政府把强人的天性压抑了,束缚了大家开拓西部发大财为所欲为发扬个性的机会,所以必须打倒。

American libertarianism 是独家一档,跟世界其他地方的 liberatrianism 颇有差异,植根于西部拓荒和屠杀印第安人的神话中。讽刺的是不知怎么这些理论被传输到中国人圈子里,被某些毫不了解美国历史和现状的知识分子抓住了当成宝一样,投射以自身的历史与积怨(例如自己历史和现实中过于专制的政府)。前两年看见连岳的言论,呵呵,一眼就认出是从哪儿学来的皮毛供起来当成宇宙真理。

Libertarian 并不明确地反对其他种族共存或者多元社会,但是他们的历史本来就是建立在 genocide 上面的繁荣,所以他们也不可能特别支持平等权利。他们的哲学就是这是一个狗咬狗的丛林,谁被咬谁倒霉,但是这并不等于他们真的能坦然接受白人被有色人种咬,因为这并不是他们的集体范特西能想象到的画面。不过 libertarianism 对于母性符号是很厌恶的,一想起母性就是管头管脚嘛,不合绝对自由的理念,所以吸引到的男性居多,再加上 socially awkward 的电脑纳德们,这就更 ... 了 ...

随手贴两篇介绍 libertarianism 的文章:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... nt/278785/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertari ... ted_States
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2087 ... -their-way

Tea Party 的运动跟 libertarian 运动有很多重叠之处,但也有混杂其他路线的人群。我有直接了解的都是从九十年代开始的迹象,很重要的一个事件是 Bill Clinton 治下的 Waco, Texas, David Coreshi 和 Ruby Ridge 事件。在白人群众中广为流传,激发了强烈的反政府情感以及一大波政府黑幕阴谋论,且借助新兴的互联网而疯狂传播。GW Bush 在 911 之后增加政府对人民的监控,其实恶化了这一派的信念。政府就是敌人,需要赶紧推翻。这一路又跟南北战争后遗留的历史问题汇集在一起,即南方州对于代表北方立场的联邦政府的憎恨,此处省略三千字。

我这么东一榔头西一锤子地说了这么一大坨的意思就是,Robert & Rebekah Mercer 不是孤立的现象,他们不是一两个超级富翁背后操纵了整个美国政治,他们是美国政治的产物,反映了整个美国政治里很大的一股力量,这股力量自上而下都有支持者,从一文不名的红州农民到亿万富翁以及眼下的实质总统(Steve Bannon),都是信徒。

扯远点说,这让我想起为什么我跟共和党一样不太待见大学文科里的左派教授们知识分子们,住在象牙塔里一厢情愿地贩卖正统的社会和经济理论,完全脱离社会的现实,尤其是中下层人民的思潮与路线。Everyone is living in his/her own bubble. We all are.
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Re: 康为以及其他白宫八卦(3/6/2017更新)

Post by april » 2017-03-18 13:35

谢谢Jun的科普。
看完Dark Money再看这些,感觉就是所谓的成功,富有和邪恶几乎是并行的。这些人完全就是没人性,残酷,自以为是,而且其实非常无知。
全世界现在都一起右拐因为财富积累到了一定程度,邪恶的力量也达到了某个节点。美国比欧洲更疯狂因为美国财富积累更快,财富指数高出其他国家不少。美国现在也就是司法这一支还勉强运转“正常”,他们什么时候才会明白Citizen United的决定是错的呢?!什么时候才会改回来?还来不来得及啊!
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Re: 康为以及其他白宫八卦(3/6/2017更新)

Post by Jun » 2017-03-19 23:40

To be honest 我觉得美国基本完了,几十年也改回不来,正在从内部腐烂,只是尚未遇到外界环境的压力。正如 Collapse 那本书里描写,让一个社会自己坏掉是个相对缓慢的过程,但外界 因素如敌对势力或者环境突变则会 trigger 突然的坍塌。至于这个外界 trigger 会不会出现以及什么时候出现那就没法预测了。当然也可能全世界都是一根绳上的蚂蚱,美国坍塌无人能幸免被拖下水。1929年就是全球性的坍塌崩溃,而那时候还不如现在经济和军事联系紧密呢。如果天下太平大佬们安心敛财不搞大事,大家穷点就穷点,倒也不妨象中国人民那样熬着捱日子,然而考虑到世界历史先例。。。
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Re: 康为以及其他白宫八卦(3/6/2017更新)

Post by april » 2017-03-19 23:58

更悲观的想这种从内部开始的腐烂从七十年代就开始了。。。已经很久了。
但是乐观的那一面还是有光的。比方荷兰选举,甚至现在的法国和德国,都似乎说明美国的悲剧给他们提了醒,反而似乎阻挡了一下集体右转的驱使。极右的trumputin和他们的billionaire crazies并不是所向披靡。再看美国现在大半个国家在跟川普他们斗。It is not the end of the world until the end of the world. 清醒的理性的人还是占多数的。

黑洞还没有赢。

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Re: 康为以及其他白宫八卦(3/6/2017更新)

Post by Knowing » 2017-03-20 4:53

我要推一篇文章。以后我感到很受鼓舞。然后又一想,这不就是KARMA,宗教的调调吗,不看眼前成果等二十年以后见效。。。但我又一想,libertarian 几十年如一日坚持不懈吹鼓他们那套小政府的鬼话, Ron Paul 之后上Rand Paul, 多年暗搓搓当FRINGE被嘲笑不成气候也不气馁,终于浇灌出了茶党和川普这样的奇花异草.难道我们 从七十年代(至少表面上)占上风liberal一打就倒? 不行,不能认怂. nevertheless she persisted.


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To sustain ourselves, we must remember that failing at an immediate objective – to block a nominee or a pipeline or to pass a bill – often alters the whole framework in ways that make broader change inevitable: changing the story or the rules, giving tools or encouragement to future activists, inspiring wider engagement.


Actions often ripple far beyond their immediate objective, and remembering this is reason to live by principle and act in hope that what you do matters, even when results are unlikely to be immediate or obvious.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... r-movement


hahaha ,说到极度不相信政府的超级富翁,我想起不久前Evan Osnos 给纽约客写的报道.

Doomsday prep for the super rich
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/ ... super-rich

懒得读的可以听freshair interview
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/25/511507434 ... r-doomsday
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Post by Jun » 2017-03-20 8:05

All the more reason to tend to our gardens.
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Post by april » 2017-03-22 21:45

Freshair访问Jane Mayer. 没耐心看她最近关于Mercer长文的同学可以听一听,基本主要内容都概括在这里面了。。。
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Post by staryngt » 2017-03-22 22:58

april wrote:Freshair访问Jane Mayer. 没耐心看她最近关于Mercer长文的同学可以听一听,基本主要内容都概括在这里面了。。。
Inside The Wealthy Family That Has Been Funding Steve Bannon's Plan For Years
我今天听了这个。听得我寒毛直竖起来。我又去看了一下伪科学家Robinson. 这一群可怕的人聚在一起,不知道要做出什么事来。不知道川粉看到mercer觉得他们millions,millions less valuable,会不会醒过来。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-03-23 6:11

我还没来及看纽约客长文,先很八的看了HUFFINGTON POST的文。果然剑桥分析起的作用没他们吹嘘的那么大。看MERCER 的女儿丽白卡跟TED CRUZ 互掐也蛮有趣的。尤其是最后丽白卡造王成功却没抢到胜利果实,班农忙得半死也过河拆桥不怎么搭理她了,我内心不由暗爽了一下。
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Post by april » 2017-03-23 14:14

是吧?看狗咬狗一嘴毛特别爽。。。
读罗马共和国陷落那段历史,看到庞贝和凯撒还有Crassus内斗那段也是特别爽。
我就假装不知道内斗之后的历史。。。啦啦啦啦 :music004:
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Post by Knowing » 2017-03-23 14:50

我在读纽约客那篇。我能说mercer 让我感到很亲切很熟悉嘛 :mrgreen: 尤其是他深情追忆起第一次用电脑时在科学夏令营, 那感觉立马就是坠入爱河。 :mrgreen: 都是万恶的金钱啊,没发财他也就是个奇怪的科学家,没事儿看看奇怪的小报胡思乱想,最多在自己后院挖挖防空洞囤点罐头防核战防僵尸末日。有钱就危害人间了!
哦对了就是他,雇了个密西根公司在家装模型微型火车,一开始签的合同是作价十万,最后收到一张两百万的账单。他马上把帐付了,想想气不过起诉告那公司乱收费。我想起来去搜了搜这个官司后果如何。他在纽约州起诉,合同里写的如有纠纷得在密西根打官司,遂被纽约法官dismiss 让他去密西根起诉。后来就没有后来了。大概庭外和解了吧。
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Post by april » 2017-03-23 14:58

Newsweek那篇旧文说模型火车案子Mercer在密西根告赢了,不过他只是嫌人家多要了他两千块! :worthy:
In 2009, he sued the manufacturer of a model train set for allegedly charging him $2.7 million, claiming it should have cost about $2,000 less. A federal judge sent the case to a Michigan state court; Mercer won the case there.
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Post by Knowing » 2017-03-23 15:24

Newsweek 写错了吧。他告的是多收了接近两米。在联邦法庭记录显示。法官让他去密西根法庭。后面我没看到纪录。据说是settle 了。要是开庭应该会有记录的

https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/2 ... reams-inc/
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Post by april » 2017-03-23 16:00

啊!Newsweek信口开河啊!果然是两米。
看来是庭外和解了。估计在纽约州闹得这么大,他们不好意思再告了?
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Post by Knowing » 2017-03-24 7:44

大概觉得影响不好.花2.7米在家搭小火车的名声太难听了.后来他们支持TED CRUZ, 每个报道都提到这个小火车! :mrgreen: 其实人家早年兢兢业业在IBM干了大半辈子的自动翻译,到五十多岁为给三个娃儿交大学学费才去文艺复兴掘金的好嘛!他的研究是GOOGLE TRANSLATE 和SIRI 的基础呢,现在都没人提。 :lol:
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Post by Jun » 2017-03-24 8:13

Mercer 很天才嘛。真是越有才危害越大啊。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-03-24 8:33

他肯定觉得人很不好, 机器很好, 大家都像机器就好了. 低维修.高效率. 有用! (高维修低效率的都去死吧!提高整体效率!)
唉,要没有CITIZEN UNITED 判决,这种科学怪人发了财也就是默默支持些同样神经病的‘科学家’搞‘科学研究’, 最多荼毒一下手下员工被迫在吃午饭的时候听些神叨叨的阴谋论憋得胃出血。现在全社会都跟着倒霉!
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Post by Jun » 2017-03-24 8:39

机器当然比人好,不会讥笑他长得丑,不会社交,没有魅力,举止又蠢又呆。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-03-24 8:42

他只是跟人交流有问题,跟机器交流很流畅好嘛!
我很八的把RAILDREAMS 的网站传给我老板看,他气愤地说真不理解为什么有人付钱买这个,乐趣不就在于自己搭模型么,他也想过多次要开公司给人搭火车模型,觉得太耗时间挣不到钱都作罢了。我狂笑说那是因为你没碰上MERCER 这样的大金主!
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Post by Knowing » 2017-03-28 1:22

我看完了纽约客的报道,结论是:千怪万怪怪CITIZEN UNITED。有钱的怪胎都跑出来危害社会。
报道里说MERCER 追随伪科学家Arthur Robinson, 见天读他的通讯, 相信核辐射对人体有利,日本被扔原子弹后除了离得近被炸死的,剩下的身体都强了。。。。 :shock: :shock: 然后Rebekah Mercer 还想让这人当national science adviser 。。。。。。。。。 :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Post by Jun » 2017-06-12 6:58

Mercer 又上新闻了。

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.3236933

The billionaire GOP patron behind Trump's social media bot army
A GOP donor who once had ties to IBM is the man behind the millions of Twitter bots President Trump counts on as followers who could be employed to target voters with misleading or fake news on social media.

In order for it to work, the scheme relies on the quiet guidance of Robert Mercer, a reclusive Republican mega-donor and staunch Trump supporter, sources told the Daily News.
Trump, meanwhile, has accrued among his 30 million Twitter followers — 15 million of which are actually bots that experts have told the Daily News could be “weaponized” to spread fake and misleading news stories that favor the White House or distract from the scandals it now faces...

“Fooling humans into doing things in the electronic realm turned out to be really easy,” said Simon Crosby, the chief technology officer at a firm called Bromium, pointing to well-documented campaigns that are thought to have influenced the 2016 presidential race and the Brexit referendum in the United Kingdom.
考虑到这篇报道来自小报 New York Daily News,大家有鉴别地看看即可,不用太相信了。不过川皇的推特追随者里确实有一大批机器人,这是之前就报道过的。
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Post by vivi » 2017-06-12 8:27

这个去年选举时CBC报道过,说是每次有啥新闻,特别是辩论结束后就有比平时多3-5倍的川粉bot出来影响舆论导向。这些bot都是俄国搞得吧?美国本地搞这个很容易被发现吧?到现在也不知道Hillary到底输给谁了。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-11-15 2:34

april wrote:“文艺复兴”(话说这名字还能起得更讽刺一点吗?!)内部打起来了。跟mercer对着干的家伙听上去好天真啊!怎么可能打得过呢?
ONE OF THE WORLD’S MOST SUCCESSFUL HEDGE FUNDS IS FACING AN EMPLOYEE REBELLION OVER DONALD TRUMP
对了,前几周新闻太多我都忘了说。文艺复兴基金遭受了很多进步团体声讨, 把mercer 劝退了.mercer 把 Breitbart News 的股份卖给女儿丽贝卡. 文艺复兴的另一个大头JIM SIMONS 估计也是忍了很久. SIMONS 是高调的克林顿支持者.
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Post by april » 2017-12-17 12:26

很有趣!
The New Yorker December 18 & 25, 2017 Issue Jim Simons, the Numbers King
Founder of 文艺复兴基金.
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Post by Knowing » 2017-12-28 5:34

我终于看完了这篇很有料的文章。又是Jane Mayer写的。她真是个超级棒的记者,做功课充分,采访时观察入微,不轻易被超级财富和高智商的光环迷惑,提问中肯,中允的让对方讲诉观点,又能做足功课提出有力的反向观点来给读者perspective.
看完我好想去给jim simons 工作。简直是我的dream job. 又充分发挥我的两大长处:编程强!善于跟低情商高智商的讷德合作!又能得到我需要:给人类做点贡献的满足感!赚到可以养家糊口的钱!同时深深忧虑这种科学研究私人化的趋势。这跟政治私人化的趋势其实是一致的。挺危险的。
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Post by Jun » 2017-12-28 8:19

因为现在回到了一百多年前,政治与社会福利都抓在大亨手里,大众等着老爷赏赐下来。这不是有些人一直都指望的回到过去的“黄金时代”么?
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Post by Knowing » 2017-12-28 9:21

哎嘛,你咋这么理解大亨们啊。Jim Simons 就是这么觉得的--私人当科研金主有啥不对的么?几千年都是这么下来的!事实上这事儿不能怪川皇也没有回到一百多年前,政府机构成为支持美国科研主力是1950年代的事儿,近年来科研经费一减再减,大企业和私人金主越来越肯花钱,2015年是二战后第一次,私有经费在基础科研中超过政府经费。
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Post by Jun » 2017-12-28 10:19

It's the gilded age all over again.

忘记是谁说的了,美国的科技与社会的进步得益于冷战,很多政府做的好事儿其实动机本来都是要跟苏联竞争才做的。

现在不用了,大家比赛着谁更反动。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-12-28 11:33

上一次镀金时代社会矛盾激化是靠两次世界大战解决的。难道这次也一样?太可怕了
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Post by Jun » 2017-12-29 8:35

我个人觉得事情的发展是难以预测的,不会跟历史完全一样然而总有相似之处。政治与国际关系可以随意发展,但地球可不管你。也许等不到人类 clean up their act,气候变化就会马上把生存环境给颠倒了,我们都只能 scamble to adapt 而已。
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Post by Knowing » 2018-08-20 8:21

来八一个康维夫妇的故事。乔治康为作为保守派律师,是真保守,看不惯川皇把共和党建制派的各种原则踩在脚下,在推上强烈积极引经据典长篇大论批判川皇各种行为。凯利安康为为此大概没少被川皇骂。
就在记者采访时,凯利安康为想让记者在文中写:(乔治骂川皇的推)是不尊重我,破坏了基本的体面,甚至可以说是破坏了婚姻誓约。 然后让记者用:一个熟悉他们夫妻关系的人说。
记者说:不行,我们是on record 。你不能说事后假装这话是别人说的.
凯利安康为试图劝说记者这个谈话off the record. 不遂后把脸一抹说:这是别人这么说,我没这么说!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: 她真是一人就唱一台戏啊.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... 888e331966
Me: You told me you found [George’s tweets] disrespectful.

Kellyanne: It is disrespectful, it’s a violation of basic decency, certainly, if not marital vows . . . as “a person familiar with their relationship.”

Me: No, we’re on the record here. You can’t say after the fact “as someone familiar.”

Kellyanne: I told you everything about his tweets was off the record.

Me: No, that’s not true. That never happened.

Kellyanne: Well, people do see it this way. People do see it that way, I don’t say I do, but people see it that way.

Me: But I’m saying we never discussed everything about his tweets being off the record. There are certain things you said that I put off the record.

Kellyanne: Fine. I’ve never actually said what I think about it and I won’t say what I think about it, which tells you what I think about it.
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物以类聚。 :lol:
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