[新闻汇集]阳光灿烂的日子

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Post by Jun » 2017-07-05 8:26

非常非常好奇如果美国对北韩动手会有怎样的后果,不仅短期后果,长期波浪可能相当深远,尤其是对于中日两国的影响将无法估计。中国正处在转折时刻,如果北韩出事,将把中国政治推向某种极端。

从美国自身角度,我听到过的所有专家都说,北韩是一个无解的题,只能无为坐等,something will happen. 相比之下,虽然叙利亚在2013-16年之间的内战沦陷也是高难度状况,倒仍有专家认为美国可以有所作为,无为是错的。所以北韩是一个比叙利亚更棘手百倍的难题。

之前 Obama 政府用隐秘的 cyber 手段破坏北韩的核弹研究,据说成效显著,令核弹进程倒退N年,所以现在北韩的炫耀很可能只是吹牛而已。不过对于川皇及狗腿这样的领导,即使吹牛也能触发他们的暴力倾向,虚弱的 masculinity 必须用经常的暴力展示来证明与支撑,内忧必须用外患来消除。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-05 8:51

北韩的确无解。因为金正恩不能用任何逻辑推测。
可怕的是川皇也不能用任何逻辑推测。这两玩CHICKEN 游戏,任何一个火上心头扔核弹我也不会意外。
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Post by staryngt » 2017-07-05 10:30

Knowing wrote:北韩的确无解。因为金正恩不能用任何逻辑推测。
可怕的是川皇也不能用任何逻辑推测。这两玩CHICKEN 游戏,任何一个火上心头扔核弹我也不会意外。
前两天twitter还在传一个视频(也不知是不是真的):川皇下了飞机,没上准备好的车,一直往前走,后来被保安拉回来,好像才明白过来。他好像只有吹捧自己和攻击别人不吹捧自己时明白,其他时候都处于半昏迷状态。
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2017-07-05 12:07

他半昏迷状态不稀奇,恐怖的是川皇支持者仍然认为他是人民的大救星。
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-05 16:55

Something will happen. I don't know what or where it will lead, but something always happens. 也许内战,也许外战。总之世界不会回到过去的状态就是了。
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Post by staryngt » 2017-07-06 0:42

民主党明年中期选举不知情形如何?怎么John Oliver说保守派要买断地方新闻台?那岂不更是乱上添乱。题外话:John Oliver我现在都不当喜剧看了,很多新闻节目都没他做得切中要害。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-06 7:09

你们太让我感到抑郁了!!!
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Post by tiffany » 2017-07-06 16:01

我早就觉得了!
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2017-07-06 20:02

http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/THy6atlwG7LJN3_qBoKoTQ
给你们看这个。Something will happen, but might not be that bad.
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-06 21:50

NPR 最新的民意调查:

http://www.npr.org/2017/07/06/535626356 ... erent-tint

共和党选民,只有17%认为俄国插手美国大选,对于未来的选举是重大威胁;24%认为是小威胁;25%认为俄国根本没插手。

虽然情报机构已经公开声明很多次,俄国肯定动手了,不清楚的只是动手的深度与广度到底多少。Must be fake news.

一个装睡的人是无法叫醒的。俄国干涉美国选举有什么关系,只要弄上去的是“自己人”,高兴还来不及呢。
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2017-07-06 23:05

有17%足够选上对手了。
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Post by tiffany » 2017-07-06 23:12

doesn't matter, because it doesn't change how they FEEL! all them feels......
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-07 0:48

最近纽约时报的daily 里报道肯塔基州,Rand Paul / Mitch McConnell 1/3的人是通过medicaid 得到健康保险,这之中又有1/3 是在obamacare medicaid expansion 得到的。也就是整个州有约10%, 是obamacare 的受益者。采访一个有基因病的女的,她得病后不能工作,住在她姐家,靠social security 的钱过日子,靠medicaid 看病。她选了Mitch McConnell. 现在她很生气。说我不知道他要repeal and replace obamacare 啊,他竞选纲领里没有啊。medicaid 救了我的命,不能消减。---什么????Mitch McConnell 和整个共和党叫了七年要repeal obamacare, 你是聋还是蠢?
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2017-07-07 1:02

我现在很有些时候能够接受现实,比如看肯塔基的例子的时候。 :mrgreen: 他们就是天然分自己人和别的人,其他人种、宗教信仰都是别的人。Mitch McConnell是自己人。不会对自己使坏。川皇当然也是自己人,自己人就是听见了我们的呼声。
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Post by simonsun » 2017-07-07 1:55

Knowing wrote:最近纽约时报的daily 里报道肯塔基州,Rand Paul / Mitch McConnell 1/3的人是通过medicaid 得到健康保险,这之中又有1/3 是在obamacare medicaid expansion 得到的。也就是整个州有约10%, 是obamacare 的受益者。采访一个有基因病的女的,她得病后不能工作,住在她姐家,靠social security 的钱过日子,靠medicaid 看病。她选了Mitch McConnell. 现在她很生气。说我不知道他要repeal and replace obamacare 啊,他竞选纲领里没有啊。medicaid 救了我的命,不能消减。---什么????Mitch McConnell 和整个共和党叫了七年要repeal obamacare, 你是聋还是蠢?
又聋又蠢。按道理是可怜的但也让人可怜不起来。到底是要死了才明白一些,看看明年怎么选咯。

说不定一听有移民要进来哗一下又把原来的人选上去了。那真是活活把自己蠢死了。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-07 3:14

哈哈,我今天听到一句很好笑的话,共和党的理想世界里,每个人都只靠自己就买得起健康保险。

Rand Paul Libertarian 的观点是: 要给群众提供福利可以,我们得加税,有钱支付才可以提供. 肯塔基得加州税,加销售税. -- 当然 Libertarian 的另一个重要观点是:税是罪恶的, 不能加税. 所以。。。

实际的说, 肯塔基州穷得叮当响,从煤炭业衰落后就是联邦政府的负担.加州税销售税也收不上来钱吧.

群众一旦习惯了某种权利,就很难拿走了。Medicaid expansion 要缩回来, 政治风险巨大. 其实现在我也不那么怕repeal without replacement . Let's do it.

McConnell 现在开始放风说要是不能REPLACE 就考虑和民主党合作加强OBAMACARE, 以免健保市场崩溃. 我也等着看他能拉到那些民主党.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 2d59fccc79
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Post by staryngt » 2017-07-07 10:45

是啊。他们去问希拉里了:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... 9f71575f16
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-07 10:53

Twitter @GOP 是共和党全国代表大会 (Republican National Committee) 的主页,他们在 social media 上拿出来的东西一直都是这么愚蠢,发推经常被当成笑柄来流传,记得以前发过林肯名言 ... 是假的 ...

I'm a very judgmental person, and I always judge people by their writing. 你再心地善良,写出来的都是语无伦次的垃圾,或者干脆转别人写的垃圾,那我只好鄙视你了。
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Post by 幻儿 » 2017-07-07 11:11

其实好多选民都不是为了自己的利益投票的,是情感票。有人连情感票都不是,就是喜欢Trump,他说什么都好都对。比如以前Trump说要建墙,让墨西哥政府付钱,不相信全球气候变化;现在他说建的墙要用太阳能光板,墨西哥政府还可以少付钱呢!他的支持者照样叫好! :worthy: Trump不用整风整改文化革命就达到了老毛的“两个凡是”境界: “凡是Trump作出的决策,我们都坚决维护;凡是Trump的指示,我们都始终不渝地遵循。” 我真是无法理解Trump怎么这么有魅力。。。

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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-10 4:14

川皇的猪队友, 小川. 不但承认竞选期间跟俄国代表接触,还说自己上当了:他们说有希拉里和DNC的黑材料我才同意见面, 拉上了驸马爷和Manafort, 结果他们根本没有!光谈俄国孤儿收养的事儿了, 骗了我! 我一看他们没料浪费时间就不耐烦了,后来也没理他们.
Trump Son Admits To Meeting Russian Lawyer With Offer Of 'Helpful' Info For Campaign

http://www.npr.org/2017/07/09/536345533 ... t=20170709


澳洲记者在新闻报道里批川皇,说的好痛快
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -after-g20

当然我相信,即使证明了川皇通俄,川粉们也会继续拥护他的。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-11 2:08

哈哈哈班叔实在太逗了。他有一副把自己画成拿破仑的油画。。。。
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-11 7:02

昨晚纽约时报爆出一大堆料,貌似一路摸到了去年七月小川跟俄国律师开会的 email (his emails!). 之前川家还说是民主党搞阴谋给他们牵的线,要陷害他们,现在连人名都放出来了,Rob Goldstone, 跟英国小报有关系。感觉通俄事件证据都在外面飞扬了。

我就不贴链了,纽时主页上满满的都是。

哦对了,FBI 喊着要搬家喊了小十年,城里的胡局长大楼太小又太老。现在主子大笔一挥,不许搬! :p 这事儿彻底黄了。

Goldstone 是娱乐圈人士哦,还给川皇拍 MTV。

http://www.npr.org/2017/07/10/536456901 ... usic-video
Goldstone is a former tabloid reporter who has worked with some of the biggest names in the music business, including Michael Jackson, Julio Iglesias, Cyndi Lauper and James Taylor, according to his website.

He once wrote an article for the New York Times about the difficulty of traveling "while fat," and subsequently spoke about the essay on NPR's Talk of the Nation.
he set up the meeting between Trump and Natalia Veselnitskaya, who has been lobbying against a U.S. law called the Magnitsky Act that blacklists Russian human rights abusers.
前两天推上的川粉们还声嘶力竭地喊,“他们是为了孤儿!领养孤儿!” 果然没错。这个 Magnitsky Act 是什么东东呢?

http://www.businessinsider.com/magnitsk ... ing-2017-7
The Magnitsky Act was passed to punish those suspected of being involved in the death of Russian tax lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, who uncovered a $230 million tax fraud scheme in 2008 that implicated high-level Kremlin officials and allies of President Vladimir Putin. The scheme quickly snowballed into one of the biggest corruption scandals of Putin's tenure.
Then in 2012, Congress passed the Magnitsky Act, which authorizes the president to deny visas to, and freeze the assets of, Russians believed to have been complicit in Magnitsky's death. The list, also known as the Cardin List because it was sponsored by Democratic Sen. Ben Cardin, has been expanded several times since then to include more Russians suspected of human-rights abuses and corruption.
"Putin’s top officials were apoplectic," Browder wrote. "All of his key lieutenants had used their jobs to become enormously wealthy, and many had done some very nasty things in the process. In theory, the Cardin List opened the door for these people to be sanctioned in the future. As far as they were concerned, the list changed everything."

Moscow retaliated by blacklisting Americans. One of them was US Attorney Preet Bharara ... before he was fired by Trump in April. They also struck back by banning Americans from adopting Russian children.
当然,小川自己早就坐实了这些内容 ...
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-11 7:18

哈我也在追看。这家人,大猪小猪落玉盘. 还有,这次会面内容,最早最早是驸马爷被FBI盘问时证实的 (he had voluntarily disclosed the meeting to the federal government) :mrgreen: 真想看到驸马和太子互怼的心理活动一万字啊。
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-11 7:33

年度宫斗大戏啊,真是高潮迭起,包袱狂掉,让人看不过来。

不过这下倒是把动机什么的都搞清楚了,两边的交易果然就是,我帮你上台,你帮我把钱放出来。就这么简单。果然他们一拍即合啊,一说到腐败和藏钱 ... so no more!
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-11 7:51

真是耿直!难怪普京大帝和川皇一拍即合!知道吗,这一对相互渴慕已久才初次见面的人儿,,把记者轰出去的时候, 普京大帝指着问:这些记者在烦你? 川皇柔弱的说是. (脑补普京霸道总裁范儿的说:别担心,钋剂我有的是,帮你解决) 只留下各自贴身丫鬟和奶妈(国务卿和翻译), 谈得好開心, 真是欢愉恨夜短, 一转眼约定的一个钟头就过去,双目交汇难舍难分, 丫鬟看到势头不对,暗暗叫苦,去找梅兰妮来劝川皇再眷恋于礼法不合恐人非议. 没有用, 想到一别之后重逢又不知何年何月, 他们不顾一切, 又聊了一个钟头,诉尽衷肠。 :mrgreen:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... in-meeting

期待川皇再推! :party005: :party005: :party005:
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-11 8:38

:worthy:

小K 把普爸爸形容得太活灵活现了。简直 ... :monkey001:
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-11 9:10

是他们太做的出来。记者报告出门时普京爸爸和川皇的对话, 真是太符合人设CLICHE 了!

小川太子赶紧去雇了个律师. 是因为利益冲突律师不能同时接两个客户,所以他们都得有不同的私人律师? 哈哈哈太赞了, 几周前有人说过, 川皇保证创造新工作不是撒谎空话,他创造了很多律师工作.

他为什么要说不知道这个俄国律师是俄国政府来的,带着俄国资料?纽时都拿到来往邮件了。还是纽时太狡猾,等他公开否认后才扔出有邮件的证据?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/p ... pe=article
The documents “would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” read the email, written by a trusted intermediary, who added, “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

He replied within minutes: “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”

Four days later, after a flurry of emails, the intermediary wrote back, proposing a meeting in New York on Thursday with a “Russian government attorney.”

Donald Trump Jr. agreed, adding that he would likely bring along “Paul Manafort (campaign boss)” and “my brother-in-law,” Jared Kushner, now one of the president’s closest White House advisers.
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-11 13:01

太子把驸马扔到巴士底下去了 ... 真是杀敌八百自伤三千啊 ...

父皇放 Sarah Huckabee 出来念了声明,说,我儿子是 ... 高质量人类 ...

真是再次印证了 All dramas are family drama.
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-11 13:53

他是对父皇没信心拉上驸马一起跳崖赌一把?还是报复驸马主动跟FBI揭发这个会面的事儿?
前阵川皇就科密事件乱讲话的时候有人说过一句超搞笑:唉吗,太刺激,脑子都转不过来了,这就是水门事件重演但是川皇一个人又当尼克松又当深喉嘛…… 今天我又体验了这种被刺激过度的感觉....
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Post by simonsun » 2017-07-11 15:44

对川粉来说这都不算事儿。连自己的健保都可以牺牲,跟俄爹睡睡怎么能算事儿呢?

接下来看点是国会共和党脸皮到底能有多厚。
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Post by april » 2017-07-11 16:19

只要川粉/选民觉得这不是事儿,共和党的脸皮就可以无底线的厚下去。这一点上我非常有信心。
一切得等2018中期选举之后才有可能,那也得看选民有多给力。。。 :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Post by tiffany » 2017-07-11 17:03

the American people, like the surprise lily in my backyard, have yet to surprise me with their collective rational mind
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Post by 豪情 » 2017-07-11 17:41

小白说的好好笑又好悲哀。
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-11 20:05

华盛顿邮报这次被纽时抢了先机,只能跟在后面报道皇上在宫里大发雷霆的边角料。其中很有意思的一段关于 Reince Priebus:
Defenders of Priebus have long said they expect him to make it to a year in the position, and Trump is said to be hesitant to fire him or any other senior staffer amid the escalating Russia investigation led by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-12 1:48

Reince Priebus 和班叔,不知道那个派别在暗搓搓的泄密整亲友团太子党。
班叔前阵想给富人加税,被纽约党挫败了。
要有人画个白宫派别图就好了,宫斗这么复杂我脑子不够用哦。
april wrote:只要川粉/选民觉得这不是事儿,共和党的脸皮就可以无底线的厚下去。这一点上我非常有信心。
一切得等2018中期选举之后才有可能,那也得看选民有多给力。。。 :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
大家要有耐心吗。像下棋一样一步步来,不能控告川皇,就告他身边的将相车炮, 一个一个吃掉,他急火攻心会出更多的烂招,大局慢慢就移了。
纽时其实手里有EMAIL 原件,如果第一天就直接爆, 效果有这么好么? 不会吧。但是他们分三天, 第一天爆的比较含糊“根据看过这些邮件的人说”,太子沉不住气要反驳,第二天根据太子的反驳爆更多料,太子再挤点牙膏,第三天纽时放出风来其实手里就有原件, 太子精神崩溃主动把邮件原件贴出来。这效果太赞了!
川皇同样不是一个有耐心的人。现在靠身边人千方百计拦着。拉锯吧。
现在我的底线已经变得很低很低低到尘埃里去。民主党夺不回美国, 共和党建制派上台也行。只要不核战。健康保险什么的,倒退就倒退吧。川粉煤炭工人们不要社会安全网要精神鸦片,左派拦的住吗。等健康保险都取消,身体不好想挖煤都不行, 天天窝在家里,不吃不喝的吸点中国邮寄过来的fentanyl, 节能环保碳脚印比我小. 全球变暖问题自然解决了。
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-12 8:01

想要更多坏消息吗?据说 Kennedy 大法官喊着要年内退休。
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-12 8:44

I will leave it to our president to dissuade him. :let_me_die: :let_me_die: :let_me_die:
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Post by helenClaire » 2017-07-12 14:27

我一直觉得太子是驸马的老婆Ivanka呢。

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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-13 1:20

不,川皇的正经家业还是交给两个儿子管的。
谣传说川皇怒了就怼私人律师,最近越怼越怒想炒律师鱿鱼。,律师也感到快撑不住,跟助手发牢骚说不想干了。
纽约时报太狡猾. 挤牙膏一样每天爆一点点料,给川皇和太子充分机会公开撒谎, 再挤点料,逼他们改口撒个不同的谎. 留下一长串掩盖的轨迹. 逼太子贴电邮后, 等川皇公开宣布自己不知情, 今天纽时列出时间线质疑川皇不但知情,而且这个会面里双方达成了协议.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/12/us/p ... -news&_r=0
6:14 p.m. June 7, 2016, Donald Trump Jr.confirm a meeting with a woman described as a “Russian government attorney” who would give him “information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia.”

3 hours later, In his victory speech, Mr. Trump promised to deliver a major address detailing Mrs. Clinton’s “corrupt dealings” to give “favorable treatment” to foreign governments, including “the Russians.”

The younger Mr. Trump said the meeting with the Russian lawyer yielded no useful information about Mrs. Clinton, and instead turned into a discussion about a Russian-American diplomatic dispute. By happenstance or not, in the days and weeks after the meeting with the Russian lawyer, emails purloined from Democratic computers were made public, which investigators tied to Russian hacking.

As a candidate, the elder Mr. Trump, who had expressed admiration of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, took positions that summer that caused head scratching. He expressed openness to lifting sanctions on Russia that were imposed after its annexation of Crimea, and suggested he might not defend NATO allies that did not spend enough money on their own security. The Republican platform at the party convention in July 2016 was crafted to keep out a call to provide arms to Ukraine to fight pro-Russian separatists.
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Post by helenClaire » 2017-07-13 7:36

哈哈,纽时太坏了,太坏了! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

在报道通俄一事上,整体觉得华邮水平高些。但这一单,纽时干得漂亮! :applaudit02:

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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-15 2:35

华盛顿时报焕发青春了。也是凑巧前两年刚被jeff bezos 私人买下,据说被武装到牙齿,资源丰富。

当时参加开会的另一个人身份被挖出来了,是美籍俄裔说客,以前在俄国军队当过情报兵
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... c8f55133f6


川皇的律师们真倒霉啊。这样遭罪得多少金钱才能补偿?川皇想让RNC 付他的私人律师费,RNC 还在抵抗中。

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pow ... 94250622b4
“The challenge for President Trump’s attorneys has become, at its core, managing the unmanageable — their client. He won’t follow instructions. After one meeting in which they urged Trump to steer clear of a certain topic, he sent a tweet about that very theme before they arrived back at their office. He won’t compartmentalize. With aides, advisers and friends breezing in and out of the Oval Office, it is not uncommon for the president to suddenly turn the conversation to Russia — a subject that perpetually gnaws at him — in a meeting about something else entirely. … Senior White House officials are increasingly reluctant to discuss the issue internally or publicly and worry about overhearing sensitive conversations, for fear of legal exposure. … As in Trump’s West Wing, lawyers on the outside teams have been deeply distrustful of one another and suspicious of motivations. They also are engaged in a circular firing squad of private speculation about who may have disclosed information about Trump Jr.’s meeting…”
川皇的长期御用私人律师精神崩溃了,在电邮里破口大骂
https://www.propublica.org/article/marc ... ils-maddow
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-15 9:57

这家人敛财的热情真是令人佩服啊,不论巨细能刮就刮能赖就赖(不能赖也赖),一分钱都不松手。
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Post by Jun » 2017-07-18 8:25

共和党秘密整出来的健保修改案弄了几回,越改越糟,最后连私营保险业都集体反对。嗯,这个过程颇象我遇到过的团队修改文档过程。John McCain 一进医院,本来好不容易赶到一起的猫群呼拉一下都散掉了。

不过 McConnell 还没死心,现在终于回到了纯废除ACA的路线,也不想什么修改了。加油!赶紧废除吧!
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Post by Knowing » 2017-07-18 10:33

我很怀疑repeal only 能不能通过。麦康利威胁说要跟民主党合作嘛不是?
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Post by vivi » 2017-07-18 10:56

川皇的approval rating还有36%!天哪,who are these people?!
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Post by sunset » 2017-07-18 11:58

vivi wrote:川皇的approval rating还有36%!天哪,who are these people?!
正好纽约客昨天推送一篇文章,勾勒了大农村川普支持者的心态。(作者是普林斯顿毕业生、九十年代去中国教书后来写了《江城》和《甲骨》的Peter Hessler(何伟)。前几年派驻开罗,现在不知是不是美国国内政治更精彩,又回来了。)

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/ ... al-america

文中写到一个从小梦想逃离经济衰退中科罗拉多大农村的白男,十年级自作主张辍学、到佛罗里达学习表演魔术,在餐馆、派对、游轮献艺,直到24岁车祸受伤没法再干魔术。当时他挣四万一年。
他去迈阿密大学修课,老师为他的写作能力惊叹,推荐他上了哥伦比亚大学,主修classics。那时他30岁。
他感到liberal大环境中人们信奉的口号和主张脱离自己生活阅历的现实。现在替保守派非盈利组织干活,最近主要在打击工会。结尾他谈到川普时说:
“I’ve never been this emotionally invested in a political leader in my life,” he said. “The more they hate him, the more I want him to succeed. Because what they hate about him is what they hate about me.”

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Post by vivi » 2017-07-18 12:17

这个听着真可悲啊。川皇是个喊着银勺子出生的恶霸,和这个白男哪里有半毛钱的相似之处?这种误会是怎么造成的呢?还是因为和老川的种族,妇女歧视有共鸣?
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2017-07-18 12:35

理解成阶级重新分化?
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Post by sunset » 2017-07-18 13:00

那个。。“可悲”(deplorable)这个词也是文中一个亮点。希拉里用了这个词大大戳了川粉的痛脚。
The Women for Trump rally named themselves (注:“The Deplorables”)after Hillary Clinton’s comment that half of Trump’s adherents were racists, sexists, and others who belonged in a “basket of deplorables.”
然后川普登基那天她们就搞了个两百多人的舞会,名为“Republican Women’s DeploraBall” :?
“It’s about creating an us-versus-them victim narrative,” …On the other side, people feel ignored or insulted—this was why they responded so strongly to Clinton’s use of the term “deplorables.” “What she said was, ‘If you don’t vote for me, you’re morally unworthy to talk to, to take seriously,’ ”…

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