[新闻汇集]阳光灿烂的日子

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Re: [新闻汇集]阳光灿烂的日子

Post by april » 2018-10-03 2:38

纽约时报记者花了一年时间研究十万多页的财务文件包括200份税表,都是跟川皇他爹的财务有关!闹半天不仅不是什么白手起家,而且是巨型败家子一枚。他爹从三岁起就开始给他年薪二十万(换算成现在的价值),八岁时就年收入百万了。从小到大他从爹手里拿到的超过半个billion。老川普死后留给三个孩子的财产价值一个比。但是从爹到儿子都是偷税漏税发政府救济款财的好手。那一个比的遗产,所有川皇家孩子交税不过5%(正常遗产税是55%)。纽约州税务局看到文章很嗨,不知道能追回来多少。因为老川普已经过世近二十年了。过了statue of limitation for criminal prosecution. 但是civil suit 和罚款还是有希望的。
明天头条印刷出版,整篇文章八整版。
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... trump.html
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记者Susanne Craig本人的长推。
https://twitter.com/susannecraig/status ... 3053056000
很果汁啊!手把手教大家怎么漏税怎么骗IRS。

爹和儿子都很奇葩,爹虽然特会赚钱,但是心甘情愿给儿子打造白手起家黄金男的形象。其实儿子用的所有钱都来自爹。
By age 3, Mr. Trump was earning $200,000 a year in today’s dollars from his father’s empire. He was a millionaire by age 8. By the time he was 17, his father had given him part ownership of a 52-unit apartment building. Soon after Mr. Trump graduated from college, he was receiving the equivalent of $1 million a year from his father. The money increased with the years, to more than $5 million annually in his 40s and 50s.
Fred Trump’s real estate empire was not just scores of apartment buildings. It was also a mountain of cash, tens of millions of dollars in profits building up inside his businesses, banking records show. In one six-year span, from 1988 through 1993, Fred Trump reported $109.7 million in total income, now equivalent to $210.7 million. It was not unusual for tens of millions in Treasury bills and certificates of deposit to flow through his personal bank accounts each month.
老川普不仅一辈子赚钱给儿子花,死后依然供养着儿女直到2004
All told, The Times documented 295 streams of revenue that Fred Trump created over five decades to enrich his son. In most cases his four other children benefited equally. But over time, as Donald Trump careened from one financial disaster to the next, his father found ways to give him substantially more money, records show. Even so, in 1990, according to previously secret depositions, Mr. Trump tried to have his father’s will rewritten in a way that Fred Trump, alarmed and angered, feared could result in his empire’s being used to bail out his son’s failing businesses.

<snip>

The biggest payday he ever got from his father came long after Fred Trump’s death. It happened quietly, without the usual Trumpian news conference, on May 4, 2004, when Mr. Trump and his siblings sold off the empire their father had spent 70 years assembling with the dream that it would never leave his family.

Donald Trump’s cut: $177.3 million, or $236.2 million in today’s dollars.
一些细节老川普如何全心全意为儿子充门面打造形象
So began a Nov. 1, 1976, article in The Times, one of the first major profiles of Donald Trump and a cornerstone of decades of mythmaking about his wealth. How could he claim to be worth more than $200 million when, as he divulged years later to casino regulators, his 1976 taxable income was $24,594? Donald Trump simply appropriated his father’s entire empire as his own.

In the chauffeured Cadillac, Donald Trump took The Times’s reporter on a tour of what he called his “jobs.” He told her about the Manhattan hotel he planned to convert into a Grand Hyatt (his father guaranteed the construction loan), and the Hudson River railroad yards he planned to develop (the rights were purchased by his father’s company). He showed her “our philanthropic endeavor,” the high-rise for the elderly in East Orange (bankrolled by his father), and an apartment complex on Staten Island (owned by his father), and their “flagship,” Trump Village, in Brooklyn (owned by his father), and finally Beach Haven Apartments (owned by his father). Even the Cadillac was leased by his father.

“So far,” he boasted, “I’ve never made a bad deal.”

It was a spectacular con, right down to the priceless moment when Mr. Trump confessed that he was “publicity shy.” By claiming his father’s wealth as his own, Donald Trump transformed his place in the world. A brash 30-year-old playboy worth more than $200 million proved irresistible to New York City’s bankers, politicians and journalists.

Yet for all the spin about cutting his own path in Manhattan, Donald Trump was increasingly dependent on his father. Weeks after The Times’s profile ran, Fred Trump set up still more trusts for his children, seeding each with today’s equivalent of $4.3 million. Even into the early 1980s, when he was already proclaiming himself one of America’s richest men, Donald Trump remained on his father’s payroll, drawing an annual salary of $260,000 in today’s dollars.
爷俩一起搞股票”生意“
During the 1980s, Donald Trump became notorious for leaking word that he was taking positions in stocks, hinting of a possible takeover, and then either selling on the run-up or trying to extract lucrative concessions from the target company to make him go away. It was a form of stock manipulation with an unsavory label: “greenmailing.” The Times unearthed evidence that Mr. Trump enlisted his father as his greenmailing wingman.

On Jan. 26, 1989, Fred Trump bought 8,600 shares of Time Inc. for $934,854, his tax returns show. Seven days later, Dan Dorfman, a financial columnist known to be chatty with Donald Trump, broke the news that the younger Trump had “taken a sizable stake” in Time. Sure enough, Time’s shares jumped, allowing Fred Trump to make a $41,614 profit in two weeks.

Later that year, Fred Trump bought $5 million worth of American Airlines stock. Based on the share price — $81.74 — it appears he made the purchase shortly before Mr. Dorfman reported that Donald Trump was taking a stake in the company. Within weeks, the stock was over $100 a share. Had Fred Trump sold then, he would have made a quick $1.3 million. But he didn’t, and the stock sank amid skepticism about his son’s history of hyped takeover attempts that fizzled. Fred Trump sold his shares for a $1.7 million loss in January 1990. A week later, Mr. Dorfman reported that Donald Trump had sold, too.
爹以“贷款”的形式给儿子还债,并且保证从头到尾不赋一分钱税。前前后后看得我脑壳疼。
By 1987, for example, Donald Trump’s loan debt to his father had grown to at least $11 million. Yet canceling the debt would have required Donald Trump to pay millions in taxes on the amount forgiven. Father and son found another solution, one never before disclosed, that appears to constitute both an unreported multimillion-dollar gift and a potentially illegal tax write-off.

In December 1987, records show, Fred Trump bought a 7.5 percent stake in Trump Palace, a 55-story condominium building his son was erecting on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. Most, if not all, of his investment, which totaled $15.5 million, was made by exchanging his son’s unpaid debts for Trump Palace shares, records show.

Four years later, in December 1991, Fred Trump sold his entire stake in Trump Palace for just $10,000, his tax returns and financial statements reveal. Those documents do not identify who bought his stake. But other records indicate that he sold it back to his son.

Under state law, developers must file “offering plans” that identify to any potential condo buyer the project’s sponsors — in other words, its owners. The Trump Palace offering plan, submitted in November 1989, identified two owners: Donald Trump and his father. But under the same law, if Fred Trump had sold his stake to a third party, Donald Trump would have been required to identify the new owner in an amended offering plan filed with the state attorney general’s office. He did not do that, records show.

He did, however, sign a sworn affidavit a month after his father sold his stake. In the affidavit, submitted in a lawsuit over a Trump Palace contractor’s unpaid bill, Donald Trump identified himself as “the” owner of Trump Palace.

Under I.R.S. rules, selling shares worth $15.5 million to your son for $10,000 is tantamount to giving him a $15.49 million taxable gift. Fred Trump reported no such gift.

According to tax experts, the only circumstance that would not have required Fred Trump to report a gift was if Trump Palace had been effectively bankrupt when he unloaded his shares.

Yet Trump Palace was far from bankrupt.

Property records show that condo sales there were brisk in 1991. Trump Palace sold 57 condos for $52.5 million — 94 percent of the total asking price for those units.

Donald Trump himself proclaimed Trump Palace “the most financially secure condominium on the market today” in advertisements he placed in 1991 to rebut criticism from buyers who complained that his business travails could drag down Trump Palace, too. In December, 17 days before his father sold his shares, he placed an ad vouching for the wisdom of investing in Trump Palace: “Smart money says there has never been a better time.”

By failing to tell the I.R.S. about his $15.49 million gift to his son, Fred Trump evaded the 55 percent tax on gifts, saving about $8 million. At the same time, he declared to the I.R.S. that Trump Palace was almost a complete loss — that he had walked away from a $15.5 million investment with just $10,000 to show for it.

Federal tax law prohibits deducting any loss from the sale of property between members of the same family, because of the potential for abuse. Yet Fred Trump appears to have done exactly that, dodging roughly $5 million more in income taxes.
唯一一次老川普没听儿子的是85岁那年川皇要改老爷子的遗嘱
Fred Trump had given careful thought to what would become of his empire after he died, and had hired one of the nation’s top estate lawyers to draft his will. But in December 1990, Donald Trump sent his father a document, drafted by one of his own lawyers, that sought to make significant changes to that will.

Fred Trump, then 85, had never before set eyes on the document, 12 pages of dense legalese. Nor had he authorized its preparation. Nor had he met the lawyer who drafted it.

Yet his son sent instructions that he needed to sign it immediately.

What happened next was described years later in sworn depositions by members of the Trump family during a dispute, later settled, over the inheritance Fred Trump left to Fred Jr.’s children. These depositions, obtained by The Times, reveal something startling: Fred Trump believed that the document potentially put his life’s work at risk.

<snip>

it was the entirety of the codicil and its presentation as a fait accompli that alarmed Fred Trump, the depositions show. He confided to family members that he viewed the codicil as an attempt to go behind his back and give his son total control over his affairs. He said he feared that it could let Donald Trump denude his empire, even using it as collateral to rescue his failing businesses. (It was, in fact, the very month of the $3.5 million casino rescue.)

As close as they were — or perhaps because they were so close — Fred Trump did not immediately confront his son. Instead he turned to his daughter Maryanne Trump Barry, then a federal judge whom he often consulted on legal matters. “This doesn’t pass the smell test,” he told her, she recalled during her deposition. When Judge Barry read the codicil, she reached the same conclusion. “Donald was in precarious financial straits by his own admission,” she said, “and Dad was very concerned as a man who worked hard for his money and never wanted any of it to leave the family.” (In a brief telephone interview, Judge Barry declined to comment.)

Fred Trump took prompt action to thwart his son. He dispatched his daughter to find new estate lawyers. One of them took notes on the instructions she passed on from her father: “Protect assets from DJT, Donald’s creditors.” The lawyers quickly drafted a new codicil stripping Donald Trump of sole control over his father’s estate. Fred Trump signed it immediately.
无奈老爷子九十岁之后老年痴呆,完全没法管事。临死前终于被川皇得了手。如何把老爷子的大笔财产划拉到儿女腰包并且只交了5%的税,文章里都有详细解释。
He looked like a small panther, and he moved like a patch of night.

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Re: [新闻汇集]阳光灿烂的日子

Post by Jun » 2018-10-03 7:59

哇塞四月同学是把整个八版的巨著读了吗?

我关心的只是纽约州能不能把川普搞破产。

很多华人(其实也不止华人)移民(更不止移民)都愚蠢地以为美国社会是 meritocracy,被民主党占领的蓝州更是偏向照顾黑墨穆劫富济贫的社会主义。呵呵,加州和纽约这俩最蓝的州,在结构上都是非常劫贫的,其他地方就更不用说了。如果你作为一个美国居民,连发不义之财的合法手段都不知道,更别提非法手段,就别做梦当上贵族阶层了。

纽约和 New Jersey 这两个州经常会闹出贪污腐败,黑白两道勾结的丑闻。
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Re: [新闻汇集]阳光灿烂的日子

Post by april » 2018-10-03 8:35

我以前都不知道川皇有个fed judge (经过参议院认证的)的sister! 这种公然偷税漏税的行径,judge 会受影响吗?!
龙生龙凤生凤老鼠的儿子会打洞。川皇没学会老爹刻苦挣钱不背任何债务(这点很有老派华人之风啊),但是偷税漏税和刻薄学了个十足十。把老爹辛苦70年建立起的财产几年之内败完,也算是报应。估计是那之后投靠普金爸爸的吧?现在知道川皇为什么不喝酒了。因为老爹最看不起的老大就是酗酒40几岁就死掉了。一直被老爹嫌弃。老大Fred Jr.还喜欢艺术非常被老爹埋汰。所以川皇的品味也是为了讨好老爹精心培养起来的。我就等着读川皇儿女将来的被虐史了。。。
这篇讲述三个记者是怎么顺藤摸瓜翻出这么一大篇骗子家庭史的,居然第一根藤来自川皇这个法官姐妹去参议院听证是公开的一份财务报表!
How Times Journalists Uncovered the Original Source of the President’s Wealth
A central finding of the story began to emerge in April 2017, when Ms. Craig had been Google searching an arcane term the group was interested in — “mortgage receivable,” which the Trumps used to describe the mortgages from the children to Fred — paired with the last name “Trump.” She found the disclosure form that the president’s sister Maryanne, a federal judge, had filed related to her Senate confirmation hearing. Unlike the many she filed during her years on the bench, this one was not redacted. In that document, Ms. Craig noticed a $1 million contribution from an obscure family-owned company: All County Building Supply & Maintenance.
All County Building Supply & Maintenance是川普家族制造出来的一个专门为了把老川普的钱转到儿女手中的公司。运作起来其实特别简单,看的人怒发冲冠
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Re: [新闻汇集]阳光灿烂的日子

Post by Jun » 2018-10-03 10:17

穷人也想学学逃税技能。 :worthy:
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Re: [新闻汇集]阳光灿烂的日子

Post by vivi » 2018-10-03 16:24

https://youtu.be/t0e9guhV35o

选举广告。我真挺佩服那些Parkland kids的。他们自己还PTSD呢吧。revolution竟然要靠孩子们,真不容易。
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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-04 2:54

好长! 我看了一小半,都是赤裸裸违法的逃税, 赠与楼房时故意低估价值, 通过shell 公司采购设备虚报价格. 还有后来DJT 出名后, Fred Trump 事前买入某公司股票, DJT在媒体上公开宣布要买某公司,用假消息抬高股价--其实根本没钱买-, Fred Trump 趁机抛售. 这是多么低级多么典型的证券诈骗.
Fred Trump 跟纽约和新泽西地区的民主党关系密切, 得到大量地租/政府补贴贷款抵税等好处来建廉租房. 所以干这些违法事情一直没人抓.
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Post by april » 2018-10-06 10:51

纽约时报也知道大家觉得巨作太长,所以帮大家总结了一下
11 Takeaways From The Times’s Investigation Into Trump’s Wealth
读“巨著”时一直在想,其实这才是“教父”的现实版啊!
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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-09 6:10

很辛辣的假广告 Gerrymander Maps In U.S. Politics Turned Into Jewelry
https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics ... to-jewelry
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Post by Jun » 2018-10-09 7:52

april wrote:纽约时报也知道大家觉得巨作太长,所以帮大家总结了一下
11 Takeaways From The Times’s Investigation Into Trump’s Wealth
读“巨著”时一直在想,其实这才是“教父”的现实版啊!
看了一下总结版。通过“借贷” 方式把钱倒来倒去而不触到犯罪的警报,好像是个很常见的手法嘛。Paul Manafort 用类似的的手段来捯饬俄国钱。

IRS只抓小生意,超过了多少资产的富人就不敢碰了。这很正常,说实话,难道真会有人觉得富人交税多么?怪不得长篇报道没造出大新闻来。国家机器的作用是保护统治阶级,即使没学过社会主义经济学的美国群众也是心知肚明的。肯定全国百分之九十的大富翁都是这样搞的。

总之现在的风气是即使卖国也无所谓,逃税欺诈这种小事儿谁会介意啊。
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Post by Ginkgo » 2018-10-09 8:48

Nikki Haley resigns as UN Ambassador:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics ... index.html

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Post by 豪情 » 2018-10-09 12:57

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/china/chin ... ge-n916176

这个我都不知道该贴在哪儿了。
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Post by april » 2018-10-10 10:33

Ginkgo wrote:Nikki Haley resigns as UN Ambassador:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics ... index.html
Nikki Haley辞职这件事昨天听得人很困惑。这里面没隐情我才不信。今早看到NPR这条评论觉得比其他猜测都更靠谱
https://twitter.com/UpFirst/status/1050 ... 12736?s=19
主要是赞扬她的时间把握精准。现在高调宣布,年底才离职。这样如果中期选举川皇集团受到重创,她不会显得像一个弃船老鼠!
Haley is probably the most adept politician in the Trump cabinet
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Post by Jun » 2018-10-10 10:35

有谣言说是她空出的位置要给另外的人,然后空出的位置给 Lindsey Graham。反正 Graham 最近上蹿下跳肯定是被许诺了大好处。
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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-10 10:47

Lindsey Graham disgusts me.
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Post by april » 2018-10-10 11:36

貌似不是白宫提的是Haley自己提的,把白宫还给吓一跳。所以媒体很抓瞎。要是白宫提议,我们早就看到内幕了。这个白宫跟筛子似的,哪里藏得住秘密。
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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-11 8:10

Dina Powell 也是这样没什么波澜的走的.都是比较爱惜自己名誉,知道早点脱身的.
昨天股市狂跌, 川皇坚持说跟中国贸易战没关系,都怪联储!
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Re: [新闻汇集]阳光灿烂的日子

Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2018-10-11 8:28

昨天股市为啥狂跌?为啥是昨天?
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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-11 8:31

tech sector 狂跌. 据说对联储升利率和中国贸易战的担忧都有.
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Post by april » 2018-10-11 12:00

He looked like a small panther, and he moved like a patch of night.

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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-12 3:50

乔治亚州长竞选共和党白男对决民主党黑女, 此白男现在是州务卿,拼命阻挠选民注册,尤其是黑人选民. 不仅仅是阻扰,是积极的取消已有的注册选民, 2012年来取消了一百四十万, 光去年就取消了六十七万.
即使是一个深红南方州, 川皇获得两百十一万,希拉里克林顿赢了一百八十七万选票.也就是说,他们之间的差别也只有二十一万票.

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Post by Jun » 2018-10-12 6:46

保守派最喜欢用的狗哨词之一就是 "voter fraud",川普一直叫嚷着几百万非法选民投票给希拉里,否则他就是 winner of popular vote. 这个说法其实保守派选民心知肚明,所谓“非法”投票并不是没有选民资格的非公民投票,而是投票的不是“自己人”,不是自己人就不该有投票的权利。

Voter suppression 是从美国建国以后长盛不衰的政治游戏,从来没有间断过。所以我非常憎恶 John Roberts 和 Clarence Thomas 这两个人,虽然判决取消 Voting Rights Act 关键成分的法官还有三个。Roberts 因为他处心积虑鼓捣了多年以搞垮 VRA为己任,后者明知黑人群众是被压迫打击的对象而助纣为虐。是的,我认为他自己是黑人就要对黑人群众负担更高的责任。

Thomas 以前说过反感 affirmative action, 号召黑人青少年担起个人责任,靠个人奋斗做出自己那样的成就。说得比唱得还好听。比起“我就要压迫你,怎么样?”的真小人,这种道貌岸然冠冕堂皇的伪君子更让人恶心。
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Post by 幻儿 » 2018-10-12 10:42

Kanye West跟Trump见面你们看了吗?我看录像的时候都没怎么听懂他说什么,感觉一句和下一句之间没有联系似的。结果今天看transcript,竟然很有逻辑! :mrgreen: 这家伙是有多缺男性荷尔蒙???
"You know, my dad and my mom separated, so I didn’t have a lot of male energy in my home. And also, I’m married to a family that, you know, not a lot of male energy going on. It’s beautiful though! But there’s times where, you know, it’s something about—I love Hillary. I love everyone, right? But the campaign, 'I’m With Her,' just didn’t make me feel, as a guy that didn’t get to see my dad all the time, like a guy that could play catch with his son. There was something about, when I put this hat on, it made me feel like Superman. You made a Superman—that’s my favorite super hero. You made a Superman cape for me, also, as a guy who looks up to you … looks up to American industry guys, nonpolitical, no bullshit—put the beep on it—however you wanna do it, five second delay…"

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Post by 幻儿 » 2018-10-12 10:47

我觉得美国投票过程对青少年太不友好了!
青少年投票比例非常少,只有中老年人的一半。很多年轻人求学工作在外州,要投票得先要求本州选举委员会给你寄absentee ballot,然后你填好选票,要去公证(很多人不知道上哪儿公证),然后还得买邮票寄出去。多少步骤!
要是能下载一个app就投票,民主党差不多就夺回国会了。
可惜现在当权的都是现有制度受益者,不可能去搞这个。

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Post by dropby » 2018-10-12 11:14

Jun wrote:保守派最喜欢用的狗哨词之一就是 "voter fraud",川普一直叫嚷着几百万非法选民投票给希拉里,否则他就是 winner of popular vote. 这个说法其实保守派选民心知肚明,所谓“非法”投票并不是没有选民资格的非公民投票,而是投票的不是“自己人”,不是自己人就不该有投票的权利。

Voter suppression 是从美国建国以后长盛不衰的政治游戏,从来没有间断过。所以我非常憎恶 John Roberts 和 Clarence Thomas 这两个人,虽然判决取消 Voting Rights Act 关键成分的法官还有三个。Roberts 因为他处心积虑鼓捣了多年以搞垮 VRA为己任,后者明知黑人群众是被压迫打击的对象而助纣为虐。是的,我认为他自己是黑人就要对黑人群众负担更高的责任。

Thomas 以前说过反感 affirmative action, 号召黑人青少年担起个人责任,靠个人奋斗做出自己那样的成就。说得比唱得还好听。比起“我就要压迫你,怎么样?”的真小人,这种道貌岸然冠冕堂皇的伪君子更让人恶心。
我以前觉得少数族裔和女性应该天然站在少数族裔和女性的一方,成功的少数族裔和女性应该天然提拔鼓励少数族裔和女性。后来发现才不是,很多人觉得自己是靠自己的天赋和努力成功的,生怕人家认为他/她是靠AA的,AA的存在简直是给他们身上的光环加黑边的东西,打击起其他少数族裔和女性,反对起AA,更加起劲。

AA当然也有执行上的很多问题,但是黑人青少年和女性”担起个人责任,靠个人奋斗做出自己那样的成就“是不是解决之道?Come on.

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Post by simonsun » 2018-10-12 21:48

纽约客新一期有一个亚裔诉哈佛的文章,详细说了来龙去脉。

诉求怎样解决另放一边,华人政治积极分子看问题的水平真是 :doh:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018 ... ive-action
Violent delights.

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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-17 8:33

有点长,我分几天读完。奇怪的是我还觉得蛮欣慰的。文中都是工程师开始关心政治开始组织申报人的例子。就算他们不了解历史,生活圈子窄不了解低收入非裔西裔的实际情况,(所以)形成的观点我不敢苟同, 但是至少是个开始。
开篇提到的Michael Wang, 结尾说他非常喜欢最后上的williams college, 如果有机会重新选择还是愿意上这个不上哈佛. williams college可是小liberal arts college 顶顶尖的学校呀. 我倒. 这就像有人抱怨去买保时捷对方说你这钱不够买保时捷的,来, 拿个法拉利走吧. 简直是占了便宜还抗议! 看到他觉得这事儿不是关于他自己,是关于别人,我也觉得蛮欣慰. 指出亚裔在大学录取过程受歧视有其正面意义。逼着哈佛公开招生过程也是好事. 要是控诉哈佛优先收校友的孩子,父母捐钱的孩子, 能多得多少社会支持啊!被Blum 利用去反AA, 真是。。。。无语。
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Post by Jun » 2018-10-17 8:37

Shhh. 别大声讲美国还有比哈佛耶鲁更好的小学院,被土包子家长们听见了又一窝蜂去抢入学,别人挤不过他们。

这案子打到高院,最后肯定是全国禁止所有大学考虑种族,然后川皇以中美冲突/国家安全为理由,正式限制或禁止华裔移民上大学。白男优先计划达成!

现在已经开始在大学里赶中国访问学者了,还计划着要取消中国学生来美的留学签证,反正高院说过了,拒绝入境可以针对某个国家或种族,专门对付中国人没问题,分分钟启动。
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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-17 8:47

华人可以回厉害了我的国.孩子外籍分分钟上清华北大的哦!被习大大割韭菜也开心!
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Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2018-10-17 9:04

Knowing wrote:被Blum 利用去反AA, 真是。。。。无语。
我也是感慨这一点,不过也有华裔不认为Blum利用自己,而是自己利用Blum,无语。
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "... But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien

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Post by 幻儿 » 2018-10-17 9:30

我觉得不存在什么利用。他们明明白白知道自己要什么 -- 就是不乐意黑人西语裔上名校呗,但是白人富家子弟那完全可以!话说白富人家的legacy上名校分数也不够,但这些亚裔可丝毫没有意见!

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Post by Jun » 2018-10-17 9:39

Yeah, it's called "strategic alliance." :p
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Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2018-10-17 9:49

有道理。纽约客作者暗示他们不懂历史,其实他们是觉得你们不懂丛林社会的斗争规则,都是中了白左的毒!
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "... But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien

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Post by Jun » 2018-10-17 9:54

不懂历史倒也没说错,他们没见过(假装不知道?)美国白男的统治手段,以为只要贴上去就足够了。
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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-17 9:55

让stephen miller 亲手调教一下就知道奴隶不好当了.
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Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2018-10-17 10:08

主要还是认同社达主义,赞同丛林规则。
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "... But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien

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Post by dropby » 2018-10-24 11:05

加拿大大麻合法化后谣言遍地,周带鱼跳出来写了一篇贴子意思说加拿大遍地都是孩子吃大麻糖。我们有几个人气坏了,到处发动人投诉,被腾讯撤文辟谣了。好开心。

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Post by Jun » 2018-10-24 11:18

周带鱼是谁?中国人抽烟那么凶那么普遍还好意思说别人。

DC 城里大麻也合法化,在人多的地铁站有时会闻到味儿。

其实我们家隔壁(不知是哪家)在温暖的夏夜里经常会从窗户飘出来大麻味儿。
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Post by vivi » 2018-10-24 11:56

同问周带鱼。我这两天也给问的很烦,连我妈70多岁了都问我她会不会‘误食’大麻食品。我对造谣的动机挺感兴趣的,到底是为啥呢?有啥好处?
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2018-10-24 12:06

老派人看不惯自由派?某人跟我对我们这里中国人的政治倾向观点相反。他说我认识的人太少。据他说25岁以下的华人都是自由派的。不知真假。
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Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2018-10-24 12:25

有可能。身边个例:同事,24,二代中国移民,自由派,据他说他和他爹妈观点相反。
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "... But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien

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Post by dropby » 2018-10-24 13:53

周带鱼就是著名的被大大夸过的周小平,最著名的文章是痛陈为啥中国比美国好。

至于叫周带鱼,是因为:
典出周小平的文章《谣害天下,无人忏悔》。
文章中有这么一句:“薛蛮子为净水器促销,诋毁中国水质有毒,造成舟山带鱼养殖场滞销,当地无数养殖农户面临破产,罪大恶极,谁来追究?”
而带鱼是没有养殖的,请看果壳网的文章:《带鱼究竟能不能养殖》。
很显然,这位周小平胡诌的一个谣言,来攻击别人造谣。
这种行为让人十分不齿,这个错误又十分低级,于是被批评周小平的人抓住不放,并将其传播成了一个笑料。
造谣的目的谁知道呢。反正一个大麻合法化,一个sogi教育,华人圈里各种匪夷所思的谣言多得要命,而且很多人信。造谣的目的,也许就是争取民众一起反?这次BC大选差不多凡微信圈支持的华人都输得很惨,我私以为就是因为这些候选人被华人选民逼着表达要反大麻合法化反sogi教育。周带鱼嘛,当然是秉承全世界哪都没有中国好的一贯宗旨,没事都要造谣,更何况大麻合法化的空穴来风。

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Post by dropby » 2018-10-24 13:54

笑嘻嘻 wrote:老派人看不惯自由派?某人跟我对我们这里中国人的政治倾向观点相反。他说我认识的人太少。据他说25岁以下的华人都是自由派的。不知真假。
华一代和华二代著名的代沟啊,华一代川粉多,华二代川黑多。

华一代动不动等孩子长大了就知道了。我心里吐槽说我早就长大了,照样川黑。

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Post by Jun » 2018-10-24 14:12

我阴谋论地说,我党肯定背后支持这些谣言,证明资本主义西方社会的糜烂腐朽的生活,太可怕了大家不要去移民、旅游、留学、花钱。

周小平造谣胡诌的风格跟川皇很象么。
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2018-10-24 15:51

我没仔细问,好像华一代25岁以下的也没有支持trump的。就是个明显的代沟。
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Post by vivi » 2018-10-24 16:30

代沟挺好,说明世界还有希望。Jun说的也不是不可能。我在国内微信上的朋友基本都相信大麻和其它毒品一样,可以让人倾家荡产,身败名裂,痛不欲生啥的。
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Post by dropby » 2018-10-24 20:33

Jun wrote:我阴谋论地说,我党肯定背后支持这些谣言,证明资本主义西方社会的糜烂腐朽的生活,太可怕了大家不要去移民、旅游、留学、花钱。

周小平造谣胡诌的风格跟川皇很象么。
本来是支持的。大大钦点的么。方舟子批韩寒造假,跟崔永远转基因大战,都没事儿,结果批了一下周小平的“梦碎美利坚", 就被国内封杀了。不过好象周小平最近两年事实上变成高级黑,也被官方不待见了。

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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-29 11:38

我把Fear 也读完了。气愤的说kindle 上说才读了64% 就突然的结束了。我很郁闷。很想要求退钱!再看看后面都是引用和注脚。Bob Woodward 太TMD仔细了。
家暴男退场后只有一章,都是John Dowd 爆料他和Mueller 调查组的交流。他表示Mueller 调查组根本没有料来指控川皇,所有的问题都是关于妨碍司法公正的,就是想来给川皇下作伪证套, 所以他舍身取义拼命保护川皇不让他跟调查组面谈,因为川皇是个撒谎精, 一套一个准!我心说就是调查组有料也不会书面写下来给你啊....
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Post by Knowing » 2018-10-30 7:01

川皇出拉票大招, 说非公民父母生在美国国土上的孩子,不应该自动获得美国公民身份。我下个行政令就行!根本不需要修宪!哦,把高庭掌握在手里底气就这么足根本不用管十四修正案了? 还是因为那个不是笑话的笑话, 说找人给他讲宪法课, 只讲到第四修正案他就没听下去.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/30/66204390 ... bdfuXzAzEs

Birthright citizenship is granted in the 14th Amendment's first sentence: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

The concept is based on jus soli — "right of the soil" — meaning that any child born in the U.S. has a claim to citizenship, even if their parents lack legal documentation to be in the country.
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Post by dropby » 2018-11-06 11:48

今天美国中期选举,大家来预测一下结果?

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Post by Jun » 2018-11-06 12:13

别猜了,再过几个钟头结果就出来了。
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