智能手机时代的福尔摩斯

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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-25 16:47

BBC推出新剧Sherlock,空间还是伦敦,时间为现在,说是要向新一代介绍经典。乍见现代装扮的福尔摩斯和华生,我的中年人疑惑症立即发作,这能忠实原著精神么?抱着试试看的心态,坐下来看了第一集。

两人首次见面过程和原著很象,华生从阿富汗战场回来,腿有点瘸。福尔摩斯寻找分租公寓的伙伴,贝克街221B(但不象是现在的福尔摩斯博物馆),初见面就把华生的底细分析了个透。莫里亚蒂的名字已经出现。本集的名字叫:A Study in Pink,我立刻会心笑起来,当代版血字的研究哈。

开初的几个镜头,华生接受PTSD的诊疗,维多利亚时代可没有这一说。福尔摩斯不背百科全书,也不查火车时刻表,玩的是智能手机和互联网,但最主要的工具,还是逻辑推理,和随时亲自出马调查研究的习惯。两人去SOHO区的意大利馆子,从贝克街的中餐馆叫外卖(贝克街果然有一家蛮出名的中餐馆)。

我觉得神似的关键在于,两个主要演员很是抓住了福尔摩斯和华生的性格精髓,互相之间且非常有化学,火花四溅(不,他们第一时间表明不是弯的)。Benedict Cumberbatch高瘦而翩翩,外形和身体语言颇近似读者的想象,虽然他没戴帽子,不抽烟斗,并号称已经戒了敏感物质。

据说编剧是Doctor Who那两位,我完全不熟,从第一集粉红的研究看来,功力颇为不弱,情节严密紧凑,节奏张弛有度,对话机智风趣。配角也很好,房东太太非常贴切,演拿福尔摩斯无可奈何的警探的,是我喜欢的Rupert Graves(福尔赛世家里的小Jolyon)。目前一共拍了三集,PBS上很快应该可以播出。我决定追下去。

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2010-07-25 19:41

PBS 上出来了我也要看。
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Post by Jun » 2010-07-25 23:15

哦哦哦,我要看。演华生医生的是 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 里面的那个主角么,第一次看见他是在原版电视剧 The Office 里面。

Mad Men 第四季第一集,呃,看得我晕头转向,得再看两遍才能回过味儿来。Matt Weiner has the balls to defy expectations. :worthy:
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 1:24

Sherlock的编剧若非资深粉丝,就是下过很多工夫。他们知道华生叫什么名字,福尔摩斯有个不太合得来的兄弟 :mrgreen:

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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-26 2:19

Benedict Cumberbatch 长的太具有holmes 的精髓了~~~
眼袋男也挺有华生的受气包气质的。我得研究一下怎么看电视。
等着在ITUNE上买MADMAN看。哎,听说这季要大转变,DON DRAPER 要重新发明自己。我好紧张。 :love015: :love015: :love015:
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 2:34

他比Jeremy Brett更内敛,而机智、敏捷、阴暗面完全不缺。前几年重看经典电视剧的时候,个人感觉Brett表演略有夸张化的倾向。Benedict Cumberbatch很明显有舞台剧底子,声音也很好听。

这个系列更象电影的拍摄手法,很精细。每集90分钟,看得过瘾。

宽带装好了的话,直接上BBC iPlayer看就好了,速度很流畅,还可以下载保存30天。

这里有官方fan site 。YouTube上的访谈也很好:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBLXJ7pydX8

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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-26 2:53

多谢多谢。我原来听说要有电视执照才能看,刚才试了下好象没问题。太好了,终于能看上传说中的BBC咧!
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 3:17

好象只有看同步播出的才需要执照,你研究下看条款

对了,趁午餐时间复习了一点血字的研究,华生原来受的是肩伤。为什么我有个印象他曾经有过腿伤呢?奇怪。

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Post by Jun » 2010-07-26 6:42

CAVA wrote:华生原来受的是肩伤。为什么我有个印象他曾经有过腿伤呢?奇怪。
:mrgreen: Because Dr. Doyle himself screwed up. Initially, he described Watson as having been shot in the shoulder. In a later short story, however, Holmes observed that Watson's hand touched his old injury in THE LEG. For some unknown reason, people tend to remember the latter passage rather then the first. :laughting015:
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Post by Jun » 2010-07-26 6:44

Knowing wrote:听说这季要大转变,DON DRAPER 要重新发明自己。我好紧张。 :love015: :love015: :love015:
He is already a lot more abnoxious and unpredictable in the first episode than all the previous 3 seasons. I have to suspect that divorce has freed up his dark side. He no longer feels the need to restrain himself and pretend to be an upstanding American gentleman in 1970.
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 7:07

你说Sherlock Holmes会不会是bipolar?据说Jeremy Brett拍电视剧的时候曾经发作过严重的躁郁症。

查查这些演员的身世还真有趣。Jeremy Brett居然是吉百利巧克力的继承人之一哦。
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Post by Jun » 2010-07-26 7:26

CAVA wrote:你说Sherlock Holmes会不会是bipolor?据说Jeremy Brett拍电视剧的时候曾经发作过严重的躁郁症。

查查这些演员的身世还真有趣。Jeremy Brett居然是吉百利巧克力的继承人之一哦。
Interesting hypothesis. I would think it is more likely that Jeremy Brett himself has bipolar disorder rather than Holmes.

Unfortunately, Jeremy Brett's portrayal of Holmes is so well known that it has replaced the "real" Holmes in the original stories in many people's mind. Brett is too old, too theatrical, too shrill, too upper-class and "armchair" for my taste.

In some ways, the boxing, slum-dwelling, rough and tumble Holmes in Guy Ritchie's movie is not as far from the original character as one might think. Like a London physician at the time, Holmes is in the unique position to mingle with a wide spectrum of social classes.

Re-reading the stories, I am often appalled by all the pranks and snide remarks poor Dr. Watson has to endure (BTW, his first name is John). Holmes can be pretty mean and insensitive sometimes.

吉百利=Cadbury?
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 7:34

Yes, Cadbury。好象Jeremy Brett的版本一开始也是蛮动作的,后来病重才慢了下来。他死于风湿性心脏病。

看《四签名》里开始的这段,华生劝福尔摩斯戒掉毒品,我才突然想到了bipolar的可能性。
他道:“我好动不好静,一遇无事可做的时候,我就会心绪不宁起来。给我难题,给我工作,给我最深奥的密码,给我最复杂的分析工作,这样我才觉得最舒适,才不需要人为的刺激。我非常憎恶平淡的生活,我追求精神上的兴奋,因此我选择了我自己的特殊职业——也可以说是我创造了这个职业,因为我是世界上唯一从事这种职业的人。"
这个21世纪福尔摩斯又有推理又有行动(注意不是动作),所以我比较满意。当然现在的版本略掉了好些法医学的理论,历年来文学影视剧里已经讲太多了。

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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-26 7:38

他用什么的?可卡因?新版是怎么解释他是健康宝宝的?bipolar 抑郁的时候吸可卡因没什么用吧?我听说反而会加剧症状。
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 7:42

书里写的是可卡因。Sherlock里面故弄玄虚来着,让他神情痛苦地捂住手臂,拉开衣袖却是三张尼古丁贴。后面有个情节,Holmes把住了线索不肯跟警察局分享,他们跑到221B来突击搜索以做要挟,他好象说:我已经是干净的了。但这里我没听太清楚。

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Post by Jun » 2010-07-26 7:45

Well, yes, maybe Holmes shows some signs of hypomania (eg, going for days without sleeping, unusually energetic), but I think he lacks some of the more characteristic symptoms of bipolar disorder, such as grandiose thinking, rapid and disorganized thoughts, and loss of self control. The signs of hypomania may be explained by his cocaine use, in my nonmedical opinion. :mrgreen:

At the time, cocaine use was neither illegal nor considered very dangerous. A lot of physicians self-medicated. Don't forget that the prevailing suggestion is that Holmes is based on Dr. Joseph Bell, professor of surgery at Edinburgh medical school.
让他神情痛苦地捂住手臂,拉开衣袖却是三张尼古丁贴
Gee, he's quit smoking too?! That's no fun! :laughting015:
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 7:52

英国公共场所全面禁烟 :mrgreen: 不过Benedict Cumberbatch却是个大烟枪,据报纸说。小提琴还是拉的。

另外Martin Freeman把华生演得很好,要知道华生刚从战场上归来的时候(也是伊拉克!),精神是很灰暗的,也没有什么朋友。难怪这两人会成为莫逆,个性又互补。

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Post by Jun » 2010-07-26 7:57

CAVA wrote:另外Martin Freeman把华生演得很好,要知道华生刚从战场上归来的时候(也是伊拉克!),精神是很灰暗的,也没有家人朋友。难怪这两人会成为莫逆,个性又互补。
That is just like the novel! (How things do not change in the world...) I wonder if the show will let poor Watson get married soon ("The Sign of Five"? :mrgreen: ).
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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-26 7:57

Cocaine was perfectly legal during that period of time. Sigmund Freud wrote a paper on it in ealier days. It was a bit later that people realized it was addictive and people could overdose.

I don't see why he needs nicotine patches. Cigarettes are bad and packed with addictive chemicals but if Holmes sticks to pipe he should have been ok... in my modern hippie nonmediacl opinion.
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 8:00

也许和stylist设计的新形象不符合,不然小K你给剧照虚拟PS一个烟斗上去,很老气的 :mrgreen:

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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 8:09

Jun wrote:
CAVA wrote:另外Martin Freeman把华生演得很好,要知道华生刚从战场上归来的时候(也是伊拉克!),精神是很灰暗的,也没有家人朋友。难怪这两人会成为莫逆,个性又互补。
That is just like the novel! (How things do not change in the world...) I wonder if the show will let poor Watson get married soon ("The Sign of Five"? :mrgreen: ).
笔误,是阿富汗。

后两集的名字是:The Blind Banker和The Great Game,一时想不起来和原著有什么关联。 :mrgreen:

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Post by silkworm » 2010-07-26 13:07

"演拿福尔摩斯无可奈何的警探的,是我喜欢的Rupert Graves(福尔赛世家里的小Jolyon)"
我的第一反应是---Damage里的倒霉蛋儿儿子。

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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 13:34

自从Damage后Rupert Graves成熟了好多,变成了我喜欢的样子 :-D 其实JI有没有演过福尔摩斯呢?外形也颇接近的。

今天电视里的寻根节目Who do you think you are的主角是另一个Rupert,水仙花Everett。我正等着看呢。

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Post by Jun » 2010-07-26 13:41

拿福尔摩斯无可奈何的警探 = Inspector Lestrade? :mrgreen:
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-26 13:55

Of course, who else :cat88:

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Post by Jun » 2010-07-26 16:59

去看了下YouTube上的trailer ,访问,感觉不错。虽然有很多新技术,但是有些地方很忠于 Dr. Doyle 的早期作品里面的调调,而不是重复过去电影电视剧里以讹传讹的老一套,可见作者是好好读过原著的而非二道贩子。(剧本之一 Stephen Moffet 是写 Coupling 的,他在BBC挺有点名气。)只要回头看看血字的研究就能发现,Holmes 跟 Dr. Watson 认识的时候他们俩都很年轻,应该不到三十,从对话看都颇有点稚气,决不是老气横秋的老头子们。而且他俩的确是在医学院的实验室里一见钟情的! :lol:

Sherlock Holmes 的故事的确很有现代感。一方面这些故事其实比较接近 police procedural 类型,不象 cozy 派故事里侦探一个人坐在椅子里想啊想的就想出结论了(有几个故事是这样的,例如歪唇男人,但是属于少数),大多数时候 Holmes 以收集 forensic evidence 为主,有时也跑到疑犯来往的街坊收集情报(鸦片屋,码头酒馆之类);另外很多故事题材和情节其实很有"Ripped From the Headlines"的感觉,包括家庭纠纷(“斑点带子”、“骑车的男人”)、国际间谍案(“金丝边眼镜”、“海军图纸”)、有组织犯罪(Professor Moriarty、“恐怖谷”、“空屋”),放到现在也一样可以。

片段里有一个地方,肯定是粉红的研究里的,一个CSI 的人说,那个字是德语,"Rache"的意思是复仇,Holmes 把门关到他脸上,说,没这事儿,死者是外地人,Cardiff 来的... 这是小说血字的研究里来的典故,不过小说里是警探说凶手留下血字 "Rache..." 一定是指哪个叫 Rachel 的女人,Holmes 讥笑他说这是德语,意思是复仇。 :mrgreen:
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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-26 18:13

我赶着看了,真好看,改编的融会贯通,比如怀表改手机,兄弟改姐妹,时代气息结合的丝丝入扣又不勉强。书里花生是典型直男,这里也是,但是保留了福尔摩斯模糊性向,更象asexual 。福尔摩斯苍白脸,卷头发和黑大衣造型非常忠于原著气质,连没有烟斗都可以原谅。
花生的角色这里多了勇气和忠实,非常有军人气质,比原著里的笨笨受气包模样强,我都觉得比福尔摩斯更迷人呢。
221B 取景其实很象贝克街在玛里本街以南的几个block, 白色三层高的乔治王排屋,下一个街口两边都是高大的玻璃摩登建筑。剧中清楚的拍出的W1区号牌也证明这一点-- 实际的贝克街221b 福尔摩斯纪念馆在马里本街北,区号是NW1,已经到了北头,对着摄政王公园的角,不是电视剧里两面都是街。实际取景不知道是那,肯定不是贝克街,我怀疑是横穿的那几条,乔治街,克劳夫德街,约克街,都有这种白色乔治王建筑。
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Post by Jun » 2010-07-26 18:39

:f19:

我好想看...

第二集看介绍好像跟破解密码有关,原著里不止一次提到解密码的情节,最有名的是跳舞的小人。不过现在有电脑了,还靠手脑解密吗?
花生的角色这里多了勇气和忠实,非常有军人气质,比原著里的笨笨受气包模样强,我都觉得比福尔摩斯更迷人呢。
原著里也有暗示华生比较有女人缘,不仅让他结婚,而且在后面的短篇里福尔摩斯还随口说起,“你这种受女人待见的男人 ...”
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Post by camellia » 2010-07-26 21:49

真好看,花生绝对比老版那个笨笨的老好人要有性格,同样是个喜欢冒险的,当然还在正常人范围内。福尔摩斯嘛,老版给我印象太深,能打个平手吧。Benedict Cumberbatch 才34岁?眼睛鼻子真有戏。
这版时代气息重,两个主演也年轻,非常雅皮,和老版的绅士风味相映成趣。
我觉得这版观众容易代入花生唉,他一头雾水的带着观众到处跑,关键时刻又非常管用,正直,忠诚,而且很幽默,形象比那个代替骷髅头的傻医生强多了。

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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-27 0:49

Jun wrote::f19:

我好想看...

第二集看介绍好像跟破解密码有关,原著里不止一次提到解密码的情节,最有名的是跳舞的小人。不过现在有电脑了,还靠手脑解密吗?
花生的角色这里多了勇气和忠实,非常有军人气质,比原著里的笨笨受气包模样强,我都觉得比福尔摩斯更迷人呢。
原著里也有暗示华生比较有女人缘,不仅让他结婚,而且在后面的短篇里福尔摩斯还随口说起,“你这种受女人待见的男人 ...”
你弄个proxy 就可以看了。
花生在这里对女人很感兴趣但是笨笨的,毫无礼貌的花瓶不拿正眼看他。 :mrgreen:
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-27 2:09

同车完全不肯敷衍他的女生特别好玩。这里面唯一演得不好的,是那名女警员。

我看电视的时候也觉得象是贝克街靠牛津街那一头,而不是221B(其实哪里有什么原址,哈哈)。后来查到基本在Cardiff拍的,但也有在贝克街取景。这两个编剧很有幽默感,把Cardiff顺手编进了第一集。
片段里有一个地方,肯定是粉红的研究里的,一个CSI 的人说,那个字是德语,"Rache"的意思是复仇,Holmes 把门关到他脸上,说,没这事儿,死者是外地人,Cardiff 来的... 这是小说血字的研究里来的典故,不过小说里是警探说凶手留下血字 "Rache..." 一定是指哪个叫 Rachel 的女人,Holmes 讥笑他说这是德语,意思是复仇。
我也注意到了。编剧有意跟熟读原著的观众开玩笑呢 :mrgreen:

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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-27 2:18

那个女警忒law and order 了!所以很奇怪。观众不需要你赤裸裸的告诉大家天才侦探是个变态!我几乎马上疑心她暗恋不遂因爱生恨。
法医安德森的受气包形象太搞笑了。
编的真好,又尊重原著又照顾现代观众的好奇心。 :mrgreen:
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-27 4:55

房东太太明明很老派却力争与时俱进也很可爱:隔壁谁谁的房客是结了婚的一对。。。

卫报这里有篇评论很中肯,我也觉得剧情本身有点模糊。注意有剧透。
The shift in time is cleverly done. Holmes's methods of deduction remain similar – though now a tell-tale splatter of mud on a lady's leg is from a wheelie suitcase rather than a dog-cart. You could say that in this age of forensic science, profiling, DNA, CSI etc, that logical reasoning is less relevant, but we can run with it. And he does also embrace modern technology – mobile phones, GPS tracking, the internet.

I like Benedict Cumberbatch in the title role. He has the right edge and energy, the razor-sharp mind, but also the lack of social skills and impatience that appears to border on cruelty. A Holmes that Conan Doyle would possibly approve of, I think. Martin Freeman's Watson is very good, too – closer to Sir ACD's thoughtful narrator than the bumbling fool so often portrayed on screen. Their relationship is spot on – a mixture of frustration, admiration and genuine affection. Even from Holmes. Characterwise, it's great.

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Post by Jun » 2010-07-27 5:28

camellia wrote:我觉得这版观众容易代入花生唉,他一头雾水的带着观众到处跑,关键时刻又非常管用,正直,忠诚,而且很幽默,形象比那个代替骷髅头的傻医生强多了。
其实原著本来就是这样的呀,Watson 的设定本来就是读者的位置么,而且人家在小说里也很可爱滴,一点也不傻。
Even from Holmes.
Of course from Holmes. 小说里 Holmes 对 Watson 很深情,只是藏在冷潮热讽之下,参见"三个同姓人"(小E 知道我在讲什么 :mrgreen: )。而且 Holmes 很依赖他的,遇到危险点儿的案子时常常拉上 Watson,并且事先请他带上枪。
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-27 5:42

人都是需要友情的,即使福尔摩斯。新剧里当然变成了Sherlock和John,单叫姓太老派太public school了。

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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-27 7:05

And how come they always pick the wrong pill?
You know, I thought about that too. but I never believed there was the right/wrong pill. I thought they both contain a dose of sth that's dead for most people but not if the person took antidote first. the killer just enjoyed the torturing process before it.
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-27 7:14

而且前几只瓶子里明明有三粒药的。。。大概我看到最后走神了,只想John为什么还没来 :mrgreen:

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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-27 7:24

Jun wrote:
CAVA wrote:另外Martin Freeman把华生演得很好,要知道华生刚从战场上归来的时候(也是伊拉克!),精神是很灰暗的,也没有家人朋友。难怪这两人会成为莫逆,个性又互补。
That is just like the novel! (How things do not change in the world...) I wonder if the show will let poor Watson get married soon ("The Sign of Five"? :mrgreen: ).
是阿富汗。想想阿富汗真倒霉,P资源没有,还老被侵略。光英国就侵略了三四次。
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-27 7:32

《三个同姓人》这个故事告诉我们,什么事情好到不象真的,那么它就不是真的 :hutch:

Sir ACD那天忽然决定必须指出福尔摩斯也是一个有感情的人,才写了这么深情款款的一段吧,哈哈。我虽然对女朋友们都很友爱,在这种情形下不一定能流出眼泪来。

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Post by Jun » 2010-07-27 7:42

Knowing wrote:是阿富汗。想想阿富汗真倒霉,P资源没有,还老被侵略。光英国就侵略了三四次。
They do now. A huge rare mineral supply (lithium?) has been discovered in Afghanistan, according to a recent announcement from the Pentagon. It's worth trillions.

Although there was no psychiatrists in Victorian England, I am quite sure Dr. Watson had PTSD when he first came back. The novel (A Study in Scarlett) describes him as having his nerves shattered. He could not stand noise and was mentally a bit fragile. Clearly Dr. Doyle cared for patients with PTSD himself in his practice and observed their symptoms first hand.
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Post by Jun » 2010-07-27 7:46

CAVA wrote:我虽然对女朋友们都很友爱,在这种情形下不一定能流出眼泪来。
What if you believe she was near death? :laughting015: :laughting015:
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-27 7:51

他脑筋当然比我动得快,我且得先楞一会儿呢 :laughting015:

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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-27 8:25

我要流眼泪一定是吓的。 :mrgreen:
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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-27 16:07

Jun wrote:
Knowing wrote:听说这季要大转变,DON DRAPER 要重新发明自己。我好紧张。 :love015: :love015: :love015:
He is already a lot more abnoxious and unpredictable in the first episode than all the previous 3 seasons. I have to suspect that divorce has freed up his dark side. He no longer feels the need to restrain himself and pretend to be an upstanding American gentleman in 1970.
oh he was soooooo abnoxious.
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Post by Jun » 2010-07-27 17:28

不会 proxy 的人只好唉声叹气地等,同时回头再读一遍小说聊以自慰。

小K 看了 Mad Men 么?本来我还想,上一季已经掉啊掉到底了吧?(见片头动画)结果看样子本季还要继续掉啊掉。

Sorry, it's 1964, not 1970.
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Post by camellia » 2010-07-27 17:49

Jun那要等到什么时候啊,你愿不愿意用电驴?

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Post by Jun » 2010-07-27 17:51

要不要 download 软件的?我好像有下过迅雷在哪里来着。。。
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Post by CAVA » 2010-07-28 0:57

电驴要下载软件的,不一定比proxy容易。让小K给出出主意吧。

这个系列与PBS合作,应该很快就播出了。

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Post by Knowing » 2010-07-28 3:03

让她到英国来看,我趁机煽动说。
我不觉得don draper 是掉到底,他只是开始了一段新旅程,更没有顾忌的做自己, 比如宁可叫妓女也懒得交女朋友。背着老婆搞婚外情搞的那么起劲,老婆一跑都没劲儿沾花惹草了。
我看到小公主BETTY 被老男朋友的妈嫌弃觉得很逗。
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Post by Jun » 2010-07-28 7:25

I've been downloading it since last night.

The slaps. That was pretty shocking. :p

I think Matt Weiner hates Betty. (Henry is her husband now.)

I started rereading "The Sign of the Four". Dr. Watson is such a romantic... (Like Holmes said, "The fair sex is your department.") :mrgreen:
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