如果，爱

tiffany · Post by **tiffany** » 2007-03-20 20:39

刚看完这个电影，貌似导演陈可辛打算拍一个纯情的肮脏故事。故事的女主角老孙分明是为了出头不惜身体交易的女演员，第一男主角帅决人寰之金帅锅城武则痴心爱老孙n多年，但是老孙本着“世界本就邋遢，还有什么可怕，爽不爽一霎那，天堂地狱一家”之原则，在“十字街头，有什么好犹豫”的拿青春换前程去了。当然她是少数幸运成功女性，多少年后跟金城武又碰上了。本故事片的主要情节就是回忆两个人年少青葱时那桃李春风一相逢片刻貌似爱情时光。浅情节则是女主角跟导演风风雨雨那么多年，拍了一部又一部戏的类似知己亲人拍档的感情。
这个是一部不是爱情故事的爱情故事，套路沿袭甜蜜蜜，女主角生活复杂，却好像蝴蝶飞不过沧海，让人不忍心责怪。这个故事情节相比甜蜜蜜却更加生活化，遂特地弄一个花里胡哨的歌舞剧背景来陪衬。那些歌儿，我不得不说，还挺好听。列位有1小时40分钟的空闲时间，可以考虑看看这个片子。

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pomo · Post by **pomo** » 2007-03-20 21:35

弄一这么文艺的名字，我赶紧扑进来看科学家的粉红感慨。真上当！

CAVA · Post by **CAVA** » 2007-03-21 2:49

我现在看电影吧，要求能笑（大笑微笑都成），不然欢喜赞叹（情节，演技，技巧，音乐），再不然感动也行。

《如果爱》可以看得下去，但不符合我的要求。《疯狂的石头》，《伤城》也是。《姨妈的后现代生活》，周润发的部分很好玩，总的来说有点闷有点怪。

我真是个挑剔的人哪

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2007-03-21 7:12

我现在看电影吧，要求能笑（大笑微笑都成），

I just watched Thumbsucker, which made me laugh.

DeBeers · Post by **DeBeers** » 2007-03-21 7:42

白金的影评也诗意盎然的

这个片子去年领导就从同事那里搞了来，可我觉得太文艺，还没看。刚看了霍元甲，李连杰老得，一脸沧桑

花差花差小将军 · Post by **花差花差小将军** » 2007-03-21 9:06

I agree with every word CAVA said, though I haven't watched 姨妈的后现代生活. I don't know if I mistake 如果爱 for another movie, I feel it's copying Moulin Rouge, more or less.

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2007-03-21 9:10

I really liked《疯狂的石头》, but I'm not crazy about Layer Cake, even though they have sort of similar structures.

花差花差小将军 · Post by **花差花差小将军** » 2007-03-21 9:11

What is Layer Cake?

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2007-03-21 9:18

A British gangsta movie directed by the producer of Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrel and Snatch. I haven't see these 2 Guy Richie movies, but supposedly all 3 have the similar structure and style of converging storylines and timelines. Layer Cake was xiao K's favorite actor Dan Craig's first starring, breakout movie. He was very cooooooool in it. But I thought the script was artificial and too self-conscious. None of these movies touch the shoe of Pulp Fiction, IMO.

Crazy Stone supposedly ripped off the structure of LSTSB.

花差花差小将军 · Post by **花差花差小将军** » 2007-03-21 9:23

Oh I see. I'll check that one out when I reactivate my netflix account.

tiffany · Post by **tiffany** » 2007-03-21 9:26

花差花差小将军 wrote:I agree with every word CAVA said, though I haven't watched 姨妈的后现代生活. I don't know if I mistake 如果爱 for another movie, I feel it's copying Moulin Rouge, more or less.

supposedly it is, but, I like it better... could not finish, well, lemme rephrase, could not start, the other one.

花差花差小将军 · Post by **花差花差小将军** » 2007-03-21 9:27

I never watched Moulin Rouge

I found it cheesy plus you know I always find Kidman eh eh you know

DeBeers · Post by **DeBeers** » 2007-03-21 9:36

shake hands with General

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2007-03-21 9:40

What do you find Kidman? I don't remember.

花差花差小将军 · Post by **花差花差小将军** » 2007-03-21 9:40

Well I find Holmes eh eh eh fishy too

It must be jealousy

花差花差小将军 · Post by **花差花差小将军** » 2007-03-21 9:43

To Jun: I find Kidman full of pretense .... at least not natural or organic, and mean looking, to some degree

This is ofcourse MPO. I don't think she can act very well either.

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2007-03-21 9:44

Jealousy of ??? To me Sherlock Holmes is totally asexual. Of course I'm infantile when it comes to him.

What about Nicole Kidman? I wonder about her friendship with Naomi Watts, who is currently pregnant with Liev Schrieber's child... I am suspicious of the sanity of anyone who stays with Tom Cruise or Michael Jackson for more than 6 months.

花差花差小将军 · Post by **花差花差小将军** » 2007-03-21 9:46

Jun wrote:Jealousy of ??? To me Sherlock Holmes is totally asexual. Of course I'm infantile when it comes to him.

I am suspicious of the sanity of anyone who stays with Tom Cruise or Michael Jackson for more than 6 months.

6 months? darling you are a doll

I would say 6 weeks is always too much

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2007-03-21 9:50

Ah but never underestimate the power of greed. I'm sure, for example, Penelope Cruz hooked up with him in hope for more glitz and connection with big studios and in turn more and better deals for her in Hollywood. Boy was she sorely mistaken.

CAVA · Post by **CAVA** » 2007-03-21 10:12

花差花差小将军 wrote:Well I find Holmes eh eh eh fishy too It must be jealousy

莫非是讲的Katie Holmes？

Nicole就是一个假人。不过她给Channel做的广告里是真漂亮。

Knowing · Post by **Knowing** » 2007-03-21 10:16

Nicole Kidman is a lesbian.

tiffany · Post by **tiffany** » 2007-03-21 10:51

is this from a friend who dated a friend who dated a friend who dated Nicole Kidman?

did not she got her marriage anulled, and married for the 1st time again, in a catholic church? life is such great comedy.

Knowing · Post by **Knowing** » 2007-03-21 11:04

Nah, but this is quite known within the movie industry, supposely.
Her marriage with Tom Cruise was probably never consummated, I am all for the annullment.

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2007-03-21 11:06

Oh I see. I never thought Katie Holmes to be FISHY. She's just stupid beyond belief. Nowadays do we even have doubts about the insanity of Tom Cruise?

There are lesbians who are normal and sane; then there are people, hetero or homosexual, who are totally nuts. I tend to consider Nicole Kidman as just ... not normal.

dropby · Post by **dropby** » 2007-03-21 16:29

我觉得如果爱比甜蜜蜜差远了. 不过电影还是比较有娱乐性, 我是看得下去的.

Nicole Kidman在hours里面还是挺显演技的. 我因为hours和the others, 本来对她的印象已经变好了, 结果她跑去演了个特傻的啥机器人妻子, 然后更更傻的家有仙妻, 我就觉得这人没救了.

我觉得一个好演员最重要的是要会选剧本. 你看梅丽尔斯特普, 演技当然没说的, 她演的电影就算不是部部都好看, 至少也都不难看. 我看不下去的就只有廊桥遗梦.

sinca · Post by **sinca** » 2007-03-21 18:48

花差花差小将军 wrote:I agree with every word CAVA said, though I haven't watched 姨妈的后现代生活. I don't know if I mistake 如果爱 for another movie, I feel it's copying Moulin Rouge, more or less.

No. I think it's quite different from Moulin Rouge.

sinca · Post by **sinca** » 2007-03-21 19:33

tiffany wrote:刚看完这个电影，貌似导演陈可辛打算拍一个纯情的肮脏故事。故事的女主角老孙分明是为了出头不惜身体交易的女演员

向上爬这件事儿，说的好听就是追逐梦想，说的不好听就是出头。

05年春节的时候看这个片儿，和刚刚成为bf的bf挤在他的破沙发上，两个人都喝得醉醺醺，沉甸甸的往事抛在身后，看这个电影特别有感触 - 凄凉并悲哀。:(

这曲折而漫长的一生，谁没有背叛过或者被背叛过几次 - 有时候为了梦想，有时候为了爱，最根本的都是为了更好的生活。:(

tiffany · Post by **tiffany** » 2007-03-22 9:24

dropby wrote:我觉得如果爱比甜蜜蜜差远了. 不过电影还是比较有娱乐性, 我是看得下去的.

我觉得从故事性上来讲，如果爱就没什么情节，相对甜蜜蜜这种传奇故事来说。但是如果爱这个故事就真实多了，剥开来看就是女明星碰见昔日挣扎时的男友，现在的结果就是他不爱她，她也不爱他，但是又有点儿感情。这个导演可能真的是因为懂得所以主要觉得大家讨生活都不容易。
这个电影，仔细想想，挺悲剧的。

豪情 · Post by 豪情 » 2007-03-23 11:39

一句话就能说完了.

也没什么悲剧的啦, 求仁得仁, 再来一点遗憾. 这个还悲剧大家怎么过. 我觉得这个故事证明了没有谁的生活是完整的.

tiffany · Post by **tiffany** » 2007-03-23 12:03

所以悲剧啊！我就爱看名人富人混的好的人等的悲情故事。我真狭隘。

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